A question for anyone that is Anti-Glock

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Come on Guys, if YOU don't like Glocks, don't make fun of 'em... That's where the Glock owners animosity comes from. Don't make fun of them for owning one, and they won't make fun of you for NOT owning one.

Seems that most of the time, people who hate Glocks and TELL everyone how much they hate Glocks just have a need to carry a single action 38oz 5" barrelled hunk o' steel. I HATE 1911's, but I don't make fun of you for owning one!

Anyway... I can't figure out why I don't like Glocks. I bought a 27, because I had to have a Glock, but I just didn't like it. It didn't FEEL right. I thought it looked great, but I just didn't like it. (It also had a 4 1/2 pound trigger, which I didn't know about until after I traded the Glock for my HK.) But anyway... no, the trigger wasn't match, but it went bang every time I pulled the trigger!

Truth is, if Glock ever makes a slimline, single stack, CCW in a .40, (you know, like Kahr refuses to in Polymer) I'll be in line to find out all over again if I still hate Glock.
 
Most of the resons have already been covered but they bear repeating. (1)The trigger pull is just too strange,mush city! (2)Gaston may have worked out the "perfect grip angle" for him but it`s different from almost any other gun out there and causes it to point way high for many shooters. I`m not going to throw years of muscle memory out the window for one gun,any gun. (3)They make Ruger autos look like beauty queens. (4)KABOOM! Yes I know it doesn`t happen often but that`s small consolation for those it DID happen to. (5)I`m always hearing how accurate they are but at the range it`s always one excuse after another as to why they`re not getting any better groups than brand X. (6)Probably the biggest reason is all the Glockers going around saying GlockPerfection! and such. No gun is perfect,and certainly NOT the Glocks. It`s so bad I have a friend that has Glock T-shirts,Glock hats,runs at the mouth about Glocks and how ULTRA reliable they are etc. and has NEVER OWNED ONE!!! Funny thing is when we took his brother and his brand new G17 to the range it stovepiped on the FIRST shot! It jammed twice more in the first 100rds. with both ball and GSHPs. GlockPerfection. :D They`re really very good guns but let`s not get silly about it. Marcus
 
Call me "old fashioned" but a safety is something that prevents the gun from firing when the trigger is pulled. You can call that little plastic thingy anything you want but if it allows you to pull the trigger when you put your finger on it, it ain't a safety.

Other than that I think a gun you can clean in the dishwasher is way cool. I even like the feel of polymer in my hands. Afterall we grew up in the plastic generation.

RJ


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Texaken,

Why in the world did you buy a Glock if it didn't fit your hand, it had a bad trigger, and you knew you couldn't shoot lead bullets in it? Sounds like you should have tried something else.

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Texaken:
1719 I bought a Glock 27 today thinking that I could get to like a Glock, and it didnt work. ---SNIP ----The Glock does not fit my hand, it is uncomfortable to shot, the trigger mechanism is quite poor----SNIP----I reload and use a lot of lead bullets and I cant do that with a Glock unless I spend $ and buy a different barrel.
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I've flirted with a 17 on two occasions, and shot most all of the other popular models. They point FAR too high for me, which is unnatural. The acceptable level of combat accuracy is unacceptable, to me. That !@#$% "trigger safety" rubs annoyingly on my fingertip. The .40s KB, and the 10mm and .45 are too big, for me anyhow.
Now, when a newbie asks me about an auto for his first gun, I attempt to steer them toward a wheelie. If they persist, I say GLOCK, as long as it other wise fits his/her hand. Why? I know the 9mm is as reliable as anything. They have NO external safety or de-cocker to master. They are quite easy to field strip and clean. And for that matter, they just don't seem to get as dirty as other guns do, given the same ammo. They are also light enough, in weight and recoil, to not fatigue the shoooter.
Now, if Gaston would only just upsize that new 36 to a full-size format. Say, 4.5" barrel and 8rd. single stack? I think I would succumb. :)
 
1) When you rack back the slide, it sounds like a rubber band being stretched, not an automatic pistol being cocked.

2) The name sounds like something you hear from someone who is choking to death on a chicken bone.

3) That funny trigger just doesn't feel comfortable.

4) They don't have enough weight to them to make to make me feel comfortable with one in my hand.

I'm sure they're good guns. I just don't want one for what they charge for them. Knock a couple hundred off of the price and they'd be priced just about right for me.

You asked...

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Glocks are very good combat pistols. They are TERRIBLE range guns. The Glock trigger is not even in the same league as any single action trigger...

And the grip angle is very extreme. They really screwed up on that part of the gun!

BTW, I carry a G26. HOWEVER, it is the lesser of many evils.
 
I would love a glock, but not until I get another Sig, a good .22 pistol and rifle, and maybe a .45 of some sort. I think the glock is a combat handgun and would enjoy it as such. Just like I would enjoy any of the popular combat rifles out there, but they aren't made for target shooting or hunting.

Kiffster
 
There are two things that can improve a Glock trigger: 1) a 3.5# connector and 2) ten minutes of your time.

All for less than $20.

As for the people who buy a Glock, bitch, then take a bath by selling it -- Duh!

The extra $20 more than makes up for having to sell the thing and eat depreciation.

If it still doesn't work for you, well, then it doesn't work and you gave it your best shot. I bet that a large percentage of the crybabies would go away if they didn't already have their minds made up they didn't like the things.

Accuracy? Walt Rauch claims sub-3" groups at 50yds. with a model 20. Abberation? Probably. Though, the 30 is supposed to be quite accurate as well. I haven't even tried at this range with my 20, but it is certainly combat accurate.

Reliability? All the 1911s I've owned have jammed fairly often, my Glock hasn't after the first 250.
 
The topic of second strike capability is a joke. You show me where any agency trains an officer or operator to try to strike a dud a second time. The drill is to rack the slide chamber a fresh round and fire. You can stake your life on a round that didn't go boom the first time, but I'll take my chances w/ a fresh round in a combat situation.

Be Safe
Mike
 
I don't like or dislike Glocks--they just aren't for me.

I fired a brand new Glock 17 when they first hit the American market. Pulled the trigger, and the hot brass bounced off my forehead.

I looked at the dealer, and he says, "Oh, that was probably just a fluke." Pulled the trigger 16 more times, and got brass burns 16 more times.

They are good ideas, and they are good pistols, they just aren't for me.

One of my brothers informs me that the brass-to-the-forehead bit goes away after 200 or so rounds. Hmm. Still not for me.

LawDog
 
1. I don't like the way the gun recoils, it vibrates too much. 2. I also don't like the way they point. 3. Their fingerprinting thing is questionable to me. I don't think they're ugly, like that matters anyway, the trigger is fine with me and the concept is pretty good. I mainly don't own a Glock due to reasons #1 and #2.
 
I have shot a few of them, I just can not get used to the trigger, how they feel or point. Do I hate 'em? Nope. Will I own one? Nope. Do I feel the same way about Lugers? Yep. Any other pistols? Yep, a bunch of 'em. Are they bad pistols? Nope. Use what you want, if it is a Glock, 'sok with me.

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Owned three Glocks. Only one left in the safe, a G30. Why don't I care for them?

1. I'm definitely a 1911 fan. With that in mind, the Glock triggers are terrible. Since I shoot SA triggers a majority of the time, switching to a Glock is like driving a V8 sports car then jumping in a 4 cyclinder. Nothing wrong with it if you shoot DAO's all the time.

2. Too fat for my hands. I can still shoot it accurately, but it never felt right in my hand.

3. KB's don't really concern me since I shoot the G30.

4. I like steel.

Nothing against Glocks. I think they are decent guns. Personally, I think my H&K Tactical is better than any Glock BUT THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. In addition, I think my Wilson CQB and Les Baer is better than any H&K. To each his own.

What irks me about Glocks are the radical owners. They are so emotional when it comes to defending their Glocks. Get a grip.

[This message has been edited by ArmySon (edited May 30, 2000).]
 
For RobRowe,
Thats a very good question Rob, I have heard so much stuff about the Glock I just had to give it a real try. I thought that I would be able to "learn to like it" so I plunked down my money and went out the door with it. I tried a few different things with it and it never did settle into my hand. Now I've tried it and I know I dont like em. Ive still got it and I may burn a few more rounds thur it, but who knows. I have a source on free ammo, so I dont have to load for it, but all and all, I just prefer the 1911, or BHP. If nothing else this will make trading material for a 1911, or a Sig 220, 226, 229, hell I dont know.
 
"What irks me about Glocks are the radical owners. They are so emotional when it comes to defending their Glocks."

Genuine wisdom. It's only a tool. So what if other people don't like them? If you like your Glocks that's all that matters.

I love SIG Sauers. If you don't I could care less.

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I shot a G23C and didn't like the trigger compared to the HK USP .40 full size. The twist of the recoil also felt strange.
 
The reason I don't like Glocks so much right now is that, after 3 months of use ,my Glock is headed back to the factory at a cost of $40. I was pretty amused when I posted my woes over at glock talk (check out the thread 'glock imperfection'), and most of the people over there thought it was ok for a pistol to have plating peeling off in critical areas(the firing pin channel and locking block). In fact, some of them thought I was being unreasonable for thinking that this was not quite 'perfection'. Unfortunately, these were the same people I paid attention to when I made my decision to by a Glock in the first place.
 
Every so often I will go out of my way to hold a Glock. There is something about the way it feels that makes me know that I will never have one. It just isn't right for me.
I know a lot of people who swear by them and that's OK too. Particularly with guns, people should have clear ideas of what they like and dislike.

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Ed
 
Glocks are the best thing since sliced bread, people. A sub-compact concealment pistol is not supposed to fill your hand, as mentioned above. The reason for the magazine design is because the rest of the world doesn't have to obey the Clinton Crime Bill. The Glock is designed as a combat pistol and a single stack magazine would ruin it. I am not saying a 1911 isn't a fine combat pistol, as I like it as well. Just that it wasn't designed to be a 1911. It is a Glock. It's like saying you don't like your wife's Cadillac because you are used to your Yugo. :-)
 
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