A question for anyone that is Anti-Glock

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Alright, most of you probably know that I am a Glock fan (hence 1719 Glock 17 and 19) But, there are some of you that don't like Glocks, and I can't seem to understand why yall don't. Some say Oh, they KABOOM, well that is true in a very small number of cases, its not like every Glock .40 KBs, shoot I'll even bet you don't know 3 other people that have had a KB with a Glock. Glock has been proven on many occasions to be extremely relible. Also, Glocks have the safe action trigger, and are very safe pistols (Even though Aussies can't figure out how to use them) Anyway, I would love to hear any Anti-Glocker's reason why they don't like Glocks. Thank You :)

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1719 I bought a Glock 27 today thinking that I could get to like a Glock, and it didnt work. I ran five boxes thru it and it just wont perform well enough for me to declare it a good gun for me. Im not anti, I just dont like them. I dont care for the CZ's or the Kahr's or Tarus revolvers either. The Glock does not fit my hand, it is uncomfortable to shot, the trigger mechanism is quite poor, and accuarcy is lacking from what I am accustomed to, and it is unbalanced. I reload and use a lot of lead bullets and I cant do that with a Glock unless I spend $ and buy a different barrel. I dont care that it looks like hell, so do some other guns for that matter. I dont advocate banning them so Im not anti, I dont have to use one and I know why because I tried to like one. I spent good American money on one and I wont use or keep it. All that really matters is the way the gun performs for me, and me alone. Any gun I choose must meet my criteria and my specifications, not anyone elses. For me its not a Glock, now if all that makes me anti then put me on the anti list.

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Maybe it's just "polymer" ;) envy! :D

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Guns cause crime like spoons cause Rosie O'Donnell to be fat!

I hunt, therefore I am.
 
I think Glocks are the greatest thing since paper plates. They go bang and projectiles exit from the hole.
Even more entertaining than the M16.

Nursury rhyme written bout one...The Glock ran up the clock.
Slow cook your chilli in a Glock Pot.
Use shavings from one for fire starter.
Slice em and make glockworst sandwiches.
Make music with your Glockenspeil.
Use em to Glock a chip of of somebody's shoulder.
Compact one would be a chip off the old Glock.
Gave rise to the expression,"That's a Glock of s**t.
In the morning pull on your Glocks, lessen you be female, then you pull on your Glockings.

Time to run.

Sam, must be bedtime, tis after leben O-Glock.
 
There are plenty of reasons i dont like glocks.

1)pointability. when i think im pointing straight, im pointing at the roof.

2)the grip. it seems like im holding a water gun, and its not because of the plastic. I love other plastic guns.

3)the trigger. its just something i cant get used to. feels like hell.

4)they are ugly as hell !!!!!!


thats just a few resons. honestly i think glocks are great guns. but for me, personally, they simply dont fit the bill. I like a sig or hk or beretta.

To each his own.


Tim :)

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Washington DC does not allow citizens to own guns. Yes it's the murder capital of the U.S.

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It is simply a matter of personal taste. If I like something or not, it has little bearing on the quality of the item. I personally don't care for a number of very high quality guns for any number of personal reasons. They either don't feel right, or I just can't warm up to them.

Walther PPK
CZ75/EAA Witness
Glock
H&K-any
Sig-any
Baretta 92
Taurus revolvers
Ruger D/A revolvers
Colt Python

All of the above are high quality dependable and accurate, with a great following and reputation. Just because I don't sing the praises of an item, and at times point out a detraction, doesn't mean to imply that it is in any way shape or form bad. Some of the above, I've given a second look/second chance and at times even three four or more looks. The latest has been the CZ's. I look and look at them. Great gun, great lines. Great reputation. The problem is that the things just plain hurt the palm of my hand! They have this cut in the backstrap that is just too deep for my hand. Glocks are about the same when it comes to what I like/dislike about them. I just can't get used to the trigger. I've only shot one(Thanks Blev,,a fellow TFL'er) and found the trigger just too different. I could gert used to it, but I have no desire to get used to it. At least for the present.

[This message has been edited by RAE (edited May 29, 2000).]
 
Place me in the same catagory as all the above. I'm not "anti" Glock. For those that like (love?) them more power to them. I, however, do not like them for many of the reasons sighted above. In my hand they feel like holding a white pine 2"X4".........except the 2"X4" is much better balanced and points better. My other complaint not listed above is their propensity for failing due to "limp wristing". I've said this before here; any gun that fails to function due to "limp wristing" has a design flaw. One should not have to grip a gun as though they are straggeling a cat in order for it to perform. Would I carry one? No. Would I trust one for the person backing me up? You bet, if that is their weapon of choice. They jsut aren't for me personally.

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Gunslinger

TFL End of Summer Meet, August 12th & 13th, 2000
 
I own a G30 and I'm starting have my doubts about the Glock hype. The have a poorly made 10 rnd mag. I couldn't even chamber a round it was so tight. That's real comforting isn't it. Why do they still sell the double stack 10 rnd mag? Because it sells more guns that way. Glock is all about selling guns, not satisfying customers.
The metal inside my G30 is beginning to peel as well. A new gun should not do that.
I have called their customer service 12 times and only got to speak to a person once.

When I had my Ruger P97 I called Ruger 3 times and I spoke to an armorer 3 times. On one of those calls they spent over an hour on the phone with me helping me improve my trigger.

To many new gun buyers buy Glock's because they want to be cool, then because they don't know any better, they defend their (overpriced) purchase like it was a girlfriend or something.

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leedesert
I've hade a G 30 for about four years now about 3000 thru it never a problem still looks almost new??? you might try over at Glocktalk.com several armorer's there hope this helps I preaty much have only Sig's and Glock's never a problem with either...and lot's of rounds thru each... <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by leedesert:
I own a G30 and I'm starting have my doubts about the Glock hype. The have a poorly made 10 rnd mag. I couldn't even chamber a round it was so tight. That's real comforting isn't it. Why do they still sell the double stack 10 rnd mag? Because it sells more guns that way. Glock is all about selling guns, not satisfying customers.
The metal inside my G30 is beginning to peel as well. A new gun should not do that.
I have called their customer service 12 times and only got to speak to a person once.

When I had my Ruger P97 I called Ruger 3 times and I spoke to an armorer 3 times. On one of those calls they spent over an hour on the phone with me helping me improve my trigger.

To many new gun buyers buy Glock's because they want to be cool, then because they don't know any better, they defend their (overpriced) purchase like it was a girlfriend or something.

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Anti-Glock? That's seems to be the problem with Glockers. A lot of 'em are on a Crusade against a non existent enemy. The "anti-Glockers". Silly.

I don't call everyone that doesn't own a Ruger rifle anti-Ruger. Even shooters that give reasons why they don't like Ruger rifles. They just don't like 'em.

Plastic SIG summed it up for me. I have shot three. 'Spent the afternoon shooting a 19. 'Just don't like 'em. Don't like Ruger semi-auto pistols either, but I'm not constantly asked how I could possibly not like them.
 
they melt very nice in a house fire but the charter arms 38 bulldog , two hi standards and a colt gold cup along with numerous other weapons didnt when my buds house fried in a fire.nice photo of that blown out glock, i never liked the triggers much on them...
 
Can sum it up in 5 words"want to buy a 19"

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and its efficiency is only marred by the difficulty of finding twelve men
every day who don't know anything and can't read.
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I don't like the trigger. I don't like the grip. I don't like their looks. I think they are way over-priced. Lastly, I don't like the propensity of some Glock owners to rant and rave anytime someone criticizes them.
Eric

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Formerly Puddle Pirate.
Teach a kid to shoot.
It annoys the antis.
 
I think Glock triggers s*%k! My pal has a model 27. It was the first .40 I ever shot. Heloved the thing. Notice I said LOVED. Once he got his hands on my USP.40 compact I could'nt get it back. Once I got that back , he got his hands on my P239 in .357 sig. Another project to get that back. He now hates his Glock. End of story.
 
Speaking as somebody who will never, ever, under any circumstances whatsoever own a Glock, here's what I can offer.

I hate the trigger with a passion. Hate it, hate it, hate it. No nasty analogies, I just hate it.

They point funny, have a weird weight distribution, and generally feel wrong in my hand.

They have no safety.

I've never yet seen or heard of a Glock posting groups in the (unreasonable for a service auto) size range I'm looking for. Of course, the pistols I'm using as a yardstick ain't anywhere near stock, and generally cost as much as several Glocks, but how many can you shoot at once
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You'll notice those are all relative, subjective criticisms that add up to why a Glock is wrong for me, and they are not objective reasons calling it a POS. If the trigger works for you, if it points right in your hands, if you can handle life with just the safety between your ears, and if you're satisfied with the accuracy, go for it. I know people who like them, and two of them absolutely are people I'd trust my life to without a second thought, Tactical Tupperware :p or not.

As for anti-Glockers being on a crusade, I suspect it's a response to the slightly annoying Glock hype: Glocks are no more reliable than any of several quality pistols like the 1911, Sig, 92, CZ, BHP, etc, and the owners of such pistols regard that BS as unjustified slander on excellent weapons. Glocks certainly jam more than, say, a 686. :) Also, if you could explain to whoever markets the bloody things that the trigger is not a safety, there would probably be less backlash against what is certainly a respectable design.

Did I mention that I hate the trigger?

Steve
 
Double strike capability? Not with a Glock.

In a related incident, I was at the OK state IDPA match and I had a failure to fire on the first shot so I pulled the trigger again and went on through the stage. All the Glockers had no idea what was going on. :rolleyes: I spent the next minute or so explaining that I wasn't shooting a Glock and I could pull the trigger twice in a row without racking the slide and wasting a round.
 
I am not anti-Glock,(not pro either), to be honest, I've never fired one. I have handled a couple in shops, and didn't care for the feel. I swing a framing hammer all day, and those light plastic things just don't feel right to me. Admittedly, I've never even held one that was loaded so I can't really even make a truly informed comment (perhaps someone will help me out at the TFL End of Summer Meet, hint, hint)
bergie
 
I've owned Glock handguns since they first hit the market. I've never had a problem
with any of them.

I think part of this non-existant Glock problem is that people buy Glock handguns and think they're built for target shooting, which they're not. They're defensive arms.

They don't have "target style triggers that break like a glass rod..."

If people would learn proper Glock trigger release, they wouldn't complain much about the "horrible" trigger.

The initial takeup is part of the Glock "safe-action". After the striker is released and the gun fires, you allow the trigger to move forward just enough to "reset". Then the trigger pull isn't bad at all.

Functioning problems occur because people over lubricate their Glocks. Glocks require minimal lubrication. Do not over lubricate.

Functioning problems also occur due to improper technique, i.e. "limp wristing".

Kabooms occur because people shoot lead reloads through Glock's polygonal rifled barrels. People ignore the owners manual warning. Do NOT shoot lead reloads through polygonal rifled barrels!

When the gun blows up due to shooter induced ignorance, they badmouth Glock.

There is nothing wrong with Glock. Glocks work when handled by the mentally competent.

There is nothing wrong with Glock 10 round magazines. When the magazines are loaded to full capacity, they were meant to be inserted with the slide LOCKED BACK. Then the slide is released to chamber a round.

A fully loaded 10 round magazine will not seat without excessive force when the slide is closed. Forcing the full magazine to seat will damage the ejector.

10 round problem bother you? Blame Klinton, not Glock.

There is nothing wrong with Glock. Glocks are fine guns that work. All perceived problems are shooter induced due to lack of common sense and proper training.

[This message has been edited by dvc (edited May 29, 2000).]
 
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