A gun for when your vehicle craps out

when the car craps out

Does shooting it 50 times really convince it to start moving again?

I would hate to see how you would handle a horse!
 
Alleykat: My mama is an anti... so not a whole lot! Outside of uniformed service I have never encountered been in a gunfight; I have needed a knife countless times. The one time that I really wanted a gun, it is a good thing I didn't have one because the odds were 3:2, all of them were 'strapped' and spread out in a triangle so that dropping all three would have been fairly unlikely. I was robbed by 3 gang-bangers in at the Hollywood bus station for $4, my buddy (another jarhead on liberty) got taken for $116 and neither of us got shot... I did have a knife at the time but kept it in my hip pocket as I have heard the old adage you referenced. As to what we were doing in that part of L.A. at 0200 on a Saturday night that made us such an easy mark... let's just call it 'lessons learned' regarding judgment and situational awareness.
 
A classic old cavalrymans' lament...

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no. i carry. but if i felt I would need something just in case something did happen to the car I would just put the shotgun in the trunk without one in the chamber, and a full tube.
 
I used to travel to the other side of the state occasionally in my job (and Kentucky is a looooooong state). I got my CCW just in case I had a break down and needed to hoof it down the roadway. This was in the days before cell phones were common and I sure wasn't paying those atrocious rates just to feel important.

Anyway, I don't keep a "car gun." I keep my CCW pistol on me. If I have to go somewhere where I can't legally carry, I'll temporarily store it in the car.
 
I agree with Brian, Ian, and w houle... not to mention that I dont currently have a car... yet... but still in the desert I would see how it helps, I grew up both in the desert and forest areas at seperate times... in the desert I would prefer a rifle and in the forest a .357 Mag... but I still have my knife...
 
Well, I carry so I suppose that's just automatically covered.
As for roadside preparedness it has changed quite a bit over the years as I've lived in different areas.

In the DC Metro area roadside preparedness generally consists of a cellphone, a credit card, and a book to read.

In the more rural areas where I grew up (and to a lesser degree where I live now) roadside preparedness, especially in the winter, revolves around the notion that you might have to "camp out" for a while regardless of the weather but not generally more than 12-24 hours.
 
I travel a lot, sometimes very late at night to get in place for the next day. Since my company vehicle is a Ford (4 X 4 pickup) I keep one in the console at all times just in case:). Criminals are opportunistic. You're alone on the highway broken down late at night. You are an easy target. Of course the pistol comes out of the console and onto my hip if that were to occur.

Hal
 
For those leaving guns in the car all the time:

Why do you want to arm criminals?

Look, right now in the US we usually aren't criminally liable if our guns are stolen. And that's the way I prefer it, versus the Israeli system. But if y'all keep up this "give a gun to a car thief" program like you're bragging about here, that's going to change.
 
I am pro Choice. I think an individual has a right to carry for their own protection or trust in the law, human kindness or something higher for their own protection. There are legal limitations for some regarding on body CCW. If you are in and out of public buildings all day, most CCWs don't allow carry for non LEOs. Some states don't have a CCW option. A vehicle weapon is a viable alternative. Additionally, the last time I was in the boonies and had a breakdown, I had one bar on my cellphone, took five tries to get through to AAA, and took over an hour to get someone out to assist. I was in a very rural area, saw exactly three other vehicles on the road at 11 at night. A J frame in the pocket is good but it is comforting to know there is a Sig P6 close by with three mags for BU. Again, Choice.
 
For those leaving guns in the car all the time:

Why do you want to arm criminals?

Look, right now in the US we usually aren't criminally liable if our guns are stolen. And that's the way I prefer it, versus the Israeli system. But if y'all keep up this "give a gun to a car thief" program like you're bragging about here, that's going to change.
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To me that sentiment is just further push towards blaming the victim of a crime rather than the perpetrator. If my gun is stolen along with my car then that's just further loss for me on top of my car being stolen. After all if my car itself is stolen and then used in a drug run I don't personally catch any blame for daring have have my car stolen in the first place do I? Of course not. I'll not treat my gun any differently. 90% of the time I keep a gun of some sort in my car. Until it's declared illegal to do so I'll continue doing that because I like to always have one available if I need it. My car stays locked and has an alarm - heck that's more than I can say for my house (it stays locked but there's no alarm, and it's "parked" in an area where there are usually far fewer witnesses that there would be if someone were to steal my car, unless they stole it right out of the yard.

As to the general question though, I've never actually thought specifically about a "break down" gun :). I don't personally see the need (people are naturally free to do what they want, but sometimes I think we invent purposes for guns just so we can buy a gun to fill that invented role ;)). I keep a handgun in the center console - loaded, for general "in case I need it" situations. During hunting season I also keep a beater SMLE Sporter in a case in my trunk, along with a changing of clothes (camo) and a box of ammo out of the case. That's basically just in case I want to stop by some of the public hunting land on the way home from work and take in some hunting before heading home. Basically a "just in case" rifle for another purpose.
 
Armoredman was reading my mind. The classic Bill Mauldin cartoon of an NCO having to dispatch his trusty Jeep with a trusty 1911.
 
I've played that video game, where you carjack somebody each time your vehicle craps out. Don't think I need a just-in-case carjacking gun for real life.
 
I do carry a gun in my truck. Locked in a floor safe in my vehicle. My CCW has to go there as well during the day when I'm at work, which means right now as I'm typing this there are two guns out there :eek:.

Let's face facts here for a second. Most homes are just as easy (if not more so) to break into as most vehicles. Usually more cover for the thief and it's easier to pattern your behavior as to when your home will be unoccupied as to when your vehicle will. I'm on the road so much for work and in and out of mine.........good luck figuring out when's a good time to break into it.........

Granted, I don't particularly like leaving a gun in my truck without an extra layer of security, but that's what the floor safe is for. The typical smash and grab guy isn't likely to make off with the gun. It'll take too much of his time trying.

Layers of security at home and on your vehicle.........and keep your gun how you want........

That all being said, my gun isn't in case my truck breaks down. More like if society does, either on a large scale (riot) or small one (assault/carjacking, etc.). I carry an emergency kit with food, water, basic first aid and survival gear in my vehicle. I got in the habit of doing this when I was a college student in the Appalachians with a car that was dodgy at best sometimes. Break down in the winter, at night in the wrong place, and you can get dead quick up there from hypothermia. I'm also a AAA member and pay extra for the premium package with better roadside assistance benefits. It's paid for itself several times in no-cost to me towing and lockout coverage.

Layers of security folks..........a gun ain't always the answer.........
 
Buzzcook wrote: Wouldn't a membership in the Automobile Club of America and a cell phone be a better idea?

I've got AAA and typical response time is one to two hours (been there done that) and cell phone coverage is spotty to none at all in some areas. I sell farm chemicals so I'm in a lot of rural areas. I'd rather have my buddies Sig and Kimber with me for that just in case scenario. Sure, when I'm home the guns go inside with me.

Hal
 
Those that drive Fords should always carry their gun in a holster. There hands will be on the rear bumper/tailgate pushing. By the way, thats why Fords tailgates are now heated, so your hands don`t get cold while pushing them:p:eek::eek::eek:.
 
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