A Great Argument for Guns

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Ask a convicted felon

what he thinks about citizens carrying arms.

When I was a prison guard at Michael Unit, Texas Dept of Criminal Justice, then Governor Ann Richards promised to veto any concealed carry bill that the Texas legislature might pass and send to her desk.

She even prevented a non-binding referendum on concealed carry from being placed on the next state-wide ballot. (she lost that election to George W. Bush).

While all this was going on, I decided to conduct an informal poll of inmates under my supervision, with the following results:

ALL knew it was illegal for them, as convicted felons, to possess a firearm.

ALL of them admitted they intended to possess a firearm, anyway, for self-defense - the same reason for law abiding citizens to carry!

The most memorable comment I heard, when I asked felons what they thought of law-abiding citizens carrying firearms was :

"It's no fun to hunt if the rabbit has a gun".:mad:
 
Major Dave, that reaction from prisoners is pretty much the same as learned by Wright/Rossi/Daly during the research for their book "Under The Gun". (1985; Univ. of Fla. Press.) Interviews with felons imprisoned for violence with firearms, in Raiford Penitentiary. In general, violent felons approve of gun control laws.

Blue Train, Marko is not defining civilization. He's pointing out that the gun enables civilization. (Or other weaponry, going back to pre-gun centuries.)

To bring rifles into the discussion: Of people shot with rifles, some 2/3 die and 1/3 live. Handguns? 1/3 die and 2/3 live.
 
found this tidbit....

http://armsandthelaw.com/archives/2009/05/the_mythical_ma.php

By late 2007, the article is on other internet locations, but attributed to an apparently mythical "Maj. L. Caudill USMC (Ret.)." How or why it wound up attributed to that name is unknown.

And now, the essay winds up as two pages of Ted Nugent's latest, "Ted, White and Blue: The Nugent Manifesto," and attributed to the mythical Major. If anyone's in touch with Uncle Ted, they might want to give him a heads up to the problem.
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so that means warbirdlover is in good company anyway...lol


seems this went out in a e-mail with the name of Maj Caudill in it.
 
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I'm sorry I didn't know this wasn't the actual author. I just thought the article made sense. And I think most things can be put in black and white. People just don't like simple.

And trickery etc IS a form of persuation IMHO.
 
See, but if you had done a quick search here, you would have known before posting that the author was fake and that the article had been posting many times prior.
 
I know this is nit picking, but reason and persuasion are not the same thing.

The Athenians used reason, the Spartons used persuasion.

Jim
 
Nugent's check to Marko was rather nominal, but was welcomed and was satisfactory. :)

When browsing the Internet, it might be worth the occasional search to see if improper credit were given, and offer a post in correction. Marko is one of our own, and deserves proper recognition.
 
just typing Maj Cudill in came up with beacoup hits and eventually the authorship was corrected in the remarks.
 
Warbird

Thanks for posting. I enjoyed reading it for the first time.


I would say that, to me, there are 3 reasons for gun ownership:

- Hunting and sportshooting

- Self defense against criminals

- A populations self defense against a government

The last one is the most important, by far.
 
A populations self defense against a government
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This one is one that we all like to say is a reason to own a rifle, but in reality just how bad would it have to get before law abiding gun owners turned there guns toward cops, FBI agents or some other agency from the govt trying to enforce laws that are unconstitutional or unjust...............:eek:
 
Well, the article being written by one person or another did lead me to do a quick search on Chicago and it's possible gunban. Really sad to see people of 'power' so ignorant to the rights of the people they 'work' for.

It did however lead me to come up with a solution for domestic violence, however. Ban marriage. While we're at it, lets not allow people to reproduce..no more child abuse!

-Max
 
A population's self defense against a government
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This one is one that we all like to say is a reason to own a rifle, but in reality just how bad would it have to get before law abiding gun owners turned there guns toward cops, FBI agents or some other agency from the govt trying to enforce laws that are unconstitutional or unjust...............
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An armed population is treated with a much softer hand than an unarmed one. I like the fact that our leaders know that we are armed to the teeth. Leaders are flesh and blood today just as they have been throughout history. I dare say that governments have killed far more of their own citizens than street crime has. This isn't far fetched. All over the world throughout history people have been at the mercy of their government. But, not here, not now, not so long as we are armed.

It's not about attacking the police. It's about our leaders knowing that they had better treat us right.
 
so that means warbirdlover is in good company anyway...lol
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Yeah, I think I already mentioned that up in post 12, LOL. Teddy doesn't check his sources for such things, though my guess is that his work is ghost written anyway.

seems this went out in a e-mail with the name of Maj Caudill in it.
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And has done so for years, despite Marko's posts about the problem from as early as the first few weeks.
 
Armed to the teeth? That's a joke. Maybe some of us might want to have a firearm to fight the insurgents. Don't get the idea that everyone with a gun is on your side.
 
It's not about attacking the police.
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Last time I checked police are the ones who enforce lawmaker's laws who do you think would be the first ones called fighting a armed uprising against the government (For the record I am not condoning or suggesting a armed uprising against the government, just pointing out what it really means when someone gives a reason for owning a gun is to protect ourselves against our government)

It's about our leaders knowing that they had better treat us right.
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Thanks man I needed a good laugh.......I don't think any leader(law maker) has ever considered whats right...I think its pretty much how they are going to pad there pockets while in and after they leave office.
 
The only problem with that argument is,,,

The reality that far too many people are too chicken-hearted to defend themselves,,,

They are afraid of all people so they advocate the hiring of a strong police force and legislation the banning of the weapons they fear.

It's that simple people,,,

Aarond
 
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