9mm or .45?

Oh. I forgot to mention it but in reality I'd rather have my 41 on my hip instead of any other handgun. It will empty the two magazines holding ten rounds into a lethal zone faster than another gun with recoil could shoot 3 rounds.
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the herters is what I bought, havent shot it tho so I have no report on it yet.
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I thought I had read a bad report on it recently but can't seem to find it. Maybe I just dreamed it. So, a report would be very appreciated.
 
While I shoot a 1911 for action pistol, a Glock 26 is what I carry when I feel the need. At 60+ the weight is important. :rolleyes:
 
Don't worry. You'll find those who will say that it's just as easy to conceal as any other gun. And they say they haven't altered their lifestyle to make it work. And maybe that's true. Maybe they never wear shorts, t-shirts, and sandals. As long as you always wear pants with a shirt that works for a large pistol, or a jacket, then you can definitely conceal a 1911A1. I carry my Sig P220, which is almost the exact same size. But I only conceal carry it a few months out of the year. I'm not going to force myself to wear certain clothing, just to make sure I can conceal my pistol. I treat guns like women treat shoes. Get dressed and see which shoes go with it. I get dressed and see which gun goes with it. The closest I have to a carry anytime gun is my CZ-82 and that's really only appropriate about 70% of the time. I do understand that some people aren't fortunate enough to own a large assortment of guns. But if I could only have one, and I needed it for carry also, it sure wouldn't be a 1911A1. It wouldn't be my Sig p220 either, and that's my FAVORITE gun I've owned in the last 40 years.
 
I'm not going to force myself to wear certain clothing, just to make sure I can conceal my pistol.
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I dont usually either, but you do have to dress around the gun, regardless what it is.

I treat guns like women treat shoes. Get dressed and see which shoes go with it.
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I'd prefer not to do this. It just makes for the possibility of to much unnecessary thought (or panic) at an inopportune moment. Same guns, same places, 99% of the time. (Who only carries one gun? :) )

I carried a 1911, usually a Commander, and on occasion, a GM, daily, for over 20 years. These days, its a Glock 17. I also always carry a double reload and another gun. I do it year round too, and really make no effort to do so. I suppose the issue here is really "want" more than anything else. You do what you "want". "Cant" is just an excuse. :)

Like I said earlier. Get a 9mm, and get a .45, then figure it out for yourself. There really is no right answer here, just your right answer.
 
I have 3 guns that I regularly carry concealed. Obviously not at the same time. I train with all 3, I'm proficient with all 3. They all shoot mechanically basically the same: "All SA/DA". I feel just as comfortable with any of the 3 guns. And I never consider what I'm wearing. Between the 3 guns, I can wear literally anything. And I do. From shorts/t-shirt and sandals, to a tuxedo or similar suit. All the way to winter days at -20 and heavy coats. I've never changed out a shirt, pants, jacket, or anything because of a gun I was carrying. Then again, I don't believe that I need a gun with a 15-18 round magazine like some do. I also train and believe in shot placement. Been training that way for almost 40 years; civilian and military. So I have no problem carrying a 32acp, 380, makarov, 9mm, or 45acp. And I'm willing to carry just the magazine that's in the gun.

To each their own. But I have seen first hand people who have gone over the edge. Their lifestyle has totally changed since they got their concealed weapon permit. They've all of a sudden developed a paranoia that apparently wasn't there when they didn't have a concealed permit. These people would come to pool parties or similar. They'd ride bikes. etc... Now however, if they can't have and keep hidden their full size pistol, they feel like all of a sudden they're going to be mugged or shot at. I understand where they might be coming from, but when I suggest they get a 2nd gun, such as a small 380 or 9mm, which they can put in their pocket or a small IWB type holster, they won't have anything to do with that. I swear, I know 2 people who have gone so far over the edge, if they could find a way to make a 460sw into a 15 round semi-auto that they could carry concealed on their body somehow, they'd try for it.

Anyway, there's nothing wrong with a 1911A1 pistol. I love my kimber and my Springfield. I don't conceal carry them, but that's my choice. I do at times carry the sprinfield open carry when I'm working at my friend's ranch or that type of outside activity. Then again, I carry that gun in condition 2. "Another topic all together". No, I have 3 guns I carry concealed. And they are all basically clones of each other as far as operations go. All SA/DA, all have a de-cock, and all shoot pretty much the same. And I can dress any way I want or participate in pretty much any activity I want and not have to worry about carry concealed.
 
I kind of like this "by both" idea, but I'd go with 9mm first. I urge you to seriously consider ammo cost and it's effect on your range time. Even with cheap 9mm ball ammo I don't get to spend as much time at the range as I'd like to. And you're really going to want to put some rounds through your carry gun, especially the more expensive hollow points that you'll wind up with as SD ammo. You want to practice with your actual expensive carry ammo to know how it feels, point of aim, and to ensure feeding.
 
I have 3 guns that I regularly carry concealed. Obviously not at the same time. I train with all 3, I'm proficient with all 3. They all shoot mechanically basically the same: "All SA/DA". I feel just as comfortable with any of the 3 guns. And I never consider what I'm wearing. Between the 3 guns, I can wear literally anything. And I do. From shorts/t-shirt and sandals, to a tuxedo or similar suit. All the way to winter days at -20 and heavy coats.
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Change the SA/DA to just SA and I'm there: Colt Government, Commander, and Officer's, and change the Winter temp to a bit lower, and the rest fits beautifully.

Is not it great that we all don't have just one Hi-Point in one caliber each; and that is it?

Variety is "the spice of life"! A Mak for you, a Colt 1911 for me, and on and on we go...

One point that I definitely agree with here is that if one carries different handguns on a rotating basis, they should all have similar manual of arms; and one should train in that manual of arms. Nothing says,"Opps!" quite as loudly, and quietly at the same time, as thinking that you just took your gun off of safe only to find that you have just engaged the safety.
 
FWIW -- Several years ago I had a Glock 30 that was a great shooter. I sold it years back and always regretted it. I shot thousands of rounds through that gun and never had a problem. Recently I was seriously considering another Glock 30. I noticed the new Glocks come with a 10 round mag only, but I found 9 round mag much easier to conceal -- YMMV. The Glocks are a bit thick, but can be concealed with the right holster.

I ended up buying a M&P45 compact (another great pistol) for a great price, but still would like to get a Glock 30.
 
Glock 30. I noticed the new Glocks come with a 10 round mag only, but I found 9 round mag much easier to conceal
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I had a Glock 30 a while back for some time, and don't remember them ever having a 9 round mag available for it, all of mine were 10 rounders (made for the G30, not counting the G21 mags).

Did Glock make a 9 round G30 mag?

Just checked on their site: standard 10 round mag and optional 9 or 13 round mag.

I learned something new today.
 
Another FWIW... I just got a Crossbreed Supertuck Holster Saturday for my M&P 45c (also fits my Glock 26 and 35) and it is amazingly comfortable to wear all day long. I'm seriously thinking about getting another Glock 30 ... I believe it would be much easier to carry in a Supertuck or M-tac.
 
Unless you reload, the cost of ammo will far exceed the purchase cost of the weapon. And that trend shows no signs of easing off either. :mad:

I would say to go for the 9mm, and get the smallest gun for CC in warm weather. As you like glocks, have you shot the 26? Harder to shoot accurately at long distance, but that's not it's mission.
 
9mm just isn't enough.

Go 10mm. It's the semi-auto replacement for the .357 :)
The Glock 20 or 29 gives you 15+1 or 10+1 rounds of serious horsepower.

It's what the .40 Short & Wimpy wishes it was.
 
Go 10mm. It's the semi-auto replacement for the .357
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Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to get a 10mm. My first gun was my grandfather's .357 Smith and Wesson and to get that kind of power in a semi-automatic would be GREAT. BUT, the compact is too small and as I'm looking for a concealed carry pistol I want a compact sized pistol. And that ammo price is way too steep. If I want to get good practice in, I'll easily be spending $70 at the range just to fire 100 rounds. Not really cost effective for me. Looks like I'll be going with the 9mm. folks. Thanks for the help.:cool:
 
Which one conceals the best? Which one "feels" the best? How many rounds do you feel comfortable with? Which caliber are you most likely to practice most with? Which one are you most accurate with? Given your needs, which do you feel would be the most effective..in terms of personal defense? Personally speaking, these would be my primary concerns.

Since we are speaking of handguns here, in terms of "collateral damage" due to penetration issues, I would not be overly concerned with caliber comparisons. What you should truly be concerned with, in this case, is missing your intended "target"; this is where you are much more likely to see "collateral" damage.

Hence, in my mind, collateral damage generally boils down to one thing...a miss.

Now, if we were speaking of high power rifles, then the idea of over-penetration would probably take on much greater significance.
 
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