We can agree on one thing, there will never be an end to this debate. There may be for you in your mind, or me in mine, but never a consensus. We all use what we use because of our own reasons. Different tools for different jobs? I think so. Now, (not so tongue in cheek) this is the argument that should end it. I said “should” not will.
Ranger 9mm hollow points are impressive enough. The Black Talons used to be more impressive.