In Calif. Guards are NOT authorized beyond their client. Armed guards in uniform, not on their post, get arrested. They are not sworn public servants authorized to act beyond wht thay are paid to do. So no, he was not off duty passing by.
If that were the situation he would be behind bars. It really fascinates me how people without knowledge or experience love to opine or argue about things they know nothing about, and cannot add anything other than noise.
So you're saying that in California armed guards must drive to and from their duty stations in "civvies," then change into their uniform, bring out the bat belt, and load their firearm only after they arrive at the duty location -- and then have to reverse the process before leaving the client's property to drive home?Marco Califo said:In Calif. Guards are NOT authorized beyond their client. Armed guards in uniform, not on their post, get arrested.
CPC penal code 12031 said:(5) Uniformed security guards, regularly employed and compensated
in that capacity by persons engaged in any lawful business, and
uniformed alarm agents employed by an alarm company operator, while
actually engaged in protecting and preserving the property of their
employers or on duty or en route to or from their residences or their
places of employment, and security guards and alarm agents en route
to or from their residences or employer-required range training.
Nothing in this paragraph shall be construed to prohibit cities and
counties from enacting ordinances requiring alarm agents to register
their names.
I love a story with a happy ending.
Another example of a failure in the victim selection process. Not quite as bad as trying to hold up a barroom full of off-duty cops, but close.
In the context of this discussion, I don't need to be aware of the different roles in the section I cited, because it's an exception to a general rule and ALL the categories listed fall under the exception. They ALL may be armed when traveling to or from their place of work, and when traveling to employer-required range training.Marco Califo said:Also, tou need to be very aware of the different "roles" you just cited.
There have been a number of linked stories and I may have missed one or you may know because you are in the area, but I can't remember seeing anything to indicate positively the guard was assigned to this location.Since the question was, maybe the guard stopped on his way to work. No. That is NOT this case here.
https://patch.com/california/los-angeles/guard-thwarts-robbers-fake-guns-mine-real-videoAs the security guard approached the entrance to the store, he saw both men had jumped over the front counter and began to rummage through the cashier's pockets.
Why waive around a plastic toy gun? If you are going to use a fake gun to rob someone your much better off just showing the gun in your belt and then keeping your hand away from it. Obviously you don't have the intent or means to shoot someone. Don't waive around a gun if you are not willing and able to carry through with its use.
Either that, or you're young, dude.briandg said:Omg, dude, you're old!