6.5 PRC vs .264 Win Mag

The only thing I can add is if you're going 270 win--I'd recommend taking a serious look at 270 Weatherby magnum--makes a good thing even better and no real noticeable recoil penalty IMO.
 
Note those 26 and 27 caliber big case magnums have accurate barrel lives in the 600 to 700 round count.
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Good point--I suppose that limits it to a hunter. I've shot two different make rifles in the 270 WM and I've been very impressed with the cartridge. Might even qualify for worth the rebarrel expense/effort. The major drawback is the cost of factory ammo, but reloading is reasonable and it's one tough case.
 
stagpanther, I have 270Wby with 26" Rock Creek 5r barrel and it will handle Berger 170gr.
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I'm sure it can handle it--but do you maintain the stellar flat trajectory as far as you would with a lighter projectile? I just looked up that "extreme outer limits" bullet (there is nothing wrong with your television set)--sounds like a soft jacket bullet but might not be the best on bone?
 
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Bart B. said:
Note those 26 and 27 caliber big case magnums have accurate barrel lives in the 600 to 700 round count.
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Yep, thars why Shilen makes barrels. Seriously though, 700 is fine for a hunting rifle but definitely impractical for benchrest.
 
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cdoc42 said:
Frankenmauser said: "But the only thing that sets it apart from .270 Win is the slightly better ballistic coefficient of the bullets." (compared to 6.5-284)

Isn't that the bottom line in the move to 6.5mm these days? The inherent accuracy of that particular bullet?

So, then, as reynolds357 posts his 6 different 6.5 variations, with his favorite being the one that has the largest case for more powder and velocity, shouldn't that cartridge be THE choice of long range target shooters or hunters simply because it is (I suspect) as accurate as the "slower"6.5's and has a flatter trajectory?
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Its accurate, but its not practical for competition. Too much recoil.
 
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The unattractiveness of the .264 Win Mag was, as I understand it, barrel erosion and poor accuracy, but the latter was attributed to the 1:9 twist that would not stabilize the 140gr bullet. I read an article that a 1:8 twist would improve that accuracy, hence my recommendation to my friend.
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My first 1000 yard target rifle was in 264 Win Mag with a 28" 1:10 twist Douglas barrel. It shot 139 grain Norma FMJBT nickel plated match bullets about 3200 fps. Tested about MOA at a thousand. Not bad for an average quality barrel.
 
I have a 6.5prc, it's not magic. So far I really like it but it's not some magic unicorn. I didn't get mine for long range competition, it's a hunting rifle with a 24" sporter weight barrel (Sauer 100 Atecama). It's accurate, I find the perceived recoil to be slightly less than my .270 but not by a large margin. I'm just starting to develop tuned handloads for, but right out of the box it's just fine MOA no problem. I think it's got a small edge on the 270 but not enough to justify replacing a good shooting 270 with a 6.5prc. I like it, plan on keeping it and honestly that's enough for me. Get what you want and shoot it.
 
cornbush said:
I have a 6.5prc, it's not magic. So far I really like it but it's not some magic unicorn. I didn't get mine for long range competition, it's a hunting rifle with a 24" sporter weight barrel (Sauer 100 Atecama). It's accurate, I find the perceived recoil to be slightly less than my .270 but not by a large margin. I'm just starting to develop tuned handloads for, but right out of the box it's just fine MOA no problem. I think it's got a small edge on the 270 but not enough to justify replacing a good shooting 270 with a 6.5prc. I like it, plan on keeping it and honestly that's enough for me. Get what you want and shoot it.
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I have always wanted a Sauer but never bought one because I cant rebarrel them. Some people say they can, but I sure cant.
 
I am sure someone has already stated this in this thread, but IMO 400-600 yard shots on game are more about the shooter's ability than the capability of the cartridge.

If conditions were right, I would feel confident enough to take a 400 yard shot with any of my rifles. My 22 lr being the exception. My thing is if you want to shoot 400 yards and be proficient, practice at 500+ yards.
 
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I am sure someone has already stated this in this thread, but IMO 400-600 yard shots on game are more about the shooter's ability than the capability of the cartridge.

If conditions were right, I would feel confident enough to take a 400 yard shot with any of my rifles. My 22 lr being the exception. My thing is if you want to shoot 400 yards and be proficient, practice at 500+ yards.
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Range finders have definitely changed the game.
I must still maintain that I like the magnums. I just dont see the bang flops with the 6.5 Creed that I see with the 6.5x300 Wby.
 
kilotanker22 said:
I am sure someone has already stated this in this thread, but IMO 400-600 yard shots on game are more about the shooter's ability than the capability of the cartridge.

If conditions were right, I would feel confident enough to take a 400 yard shot with any of my rifles. My 22 lr being the exception. My thing is if you want to shoot 400 yards and be proficient, practice at 500+ yards.
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Actually I think the the start of ability begin's at a bit under 300 yds. I've done a bunch of balistic chart's on different cartridges and damn few rifle cartridges can be sighted in for MPBR at a 8" target and keet the bullet within 4" of point of aim at 300 yds. Most come in in the area of about 275 yds max and something like 9" low at 300. There are some cartridges that will make 300+ yds in that guide line but they are darn few and there is no cartridge I found that can do much over 350 and none to 400. When you have to start adjusting for trajectory, the cartridge doesn't matter near as much as the shooter. How many people can look through a scope, any scope, at a deer at 300 yds and tell what 9" is? Not many. Get beyond 400 and how many can really guage the wind and drop of the bullet? Damn few! At somewhere beyond 300 yds it become's about the shooter. If your shooting at a 600yds target and you know to hold over x# inch's, what difference does it make the hold over so long as the shooter knows how to adjust? There's no such thing as a flat shooing cartridge beyond about 350yds and damn few at that range. It's about shooting ability!
 
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Of course, you're right, Don Fischer.

I recall one day there was a 4 ft x 4ft sheet of plywood set as a target holder at 500 yards.
I put an 8-1/2 x 11 sheet of paper at the bottom and set the horizontal cross hair of my 12-power Burris scope with a standard vertical reticle at the top edge of the plywood sheet and fired a 100gr HP out of my .270. The hole in the paper was about 42" low. I put a 9" white balloon in place of the paper, repeated the hold and popped the balloon.

A white tail buck at 500 yards does not have a 4x4 sheet of plywood just behind him. Good luck guessing where to hold on that vertical reticle.

Now I also have a Nikon M-308 scope on my 6.5 Creedmoor with hashmarks and dots all the way out to 800 yards on the vertical reticle. But to repeat that balloon feat I'd have to repeat the plywood/paper shot and match the hashmark or dot at 500 yards. Then do the same thing at 300-400-600 or whatever range I expect to take that shot at a buck who shows up somewhere out there. I really have no interest in doing that but my friend is dedicated ever since he saw a "booner" through his binoculars when he was in the midwest and was convinced he could make that shot if only he knew where to hold that reticle. So.....someday......maybe....
 
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