Anyone ever get the 700 gr .50 S&W ammo from Ballistic Supply?
I am hankering to order 20 for $hits and giggles.
Well, we do have one guy with a 500 S&@ with 525 grain bullets at 1550 fps. He pretty much missed a Bison with one, since the gun made him flinch.
Couple other guys are having Jack cut the nose off cast .50 BMG bullets, and, they yield about a 730 grain, cup nosed bullet.
The round in the middle is a .500 Linebaugh
Now, Jack says the 500JRH, the shorter version of the 500 S&@ hits like a 375 H&H, at least on big game, bison, beefalo, asian buffalo, Nigali, and those are the ones I know he shot. Guys at the ranch in Texas concur. That's a 440 grain bullet at either 950 fps, or, 1350 fps. Funny part is the animals don't seem to notice the additional ftlbs the velocity creates, and, the extra speed might actually limit penetration, due to the cast bullet noses deforming at the higher speed.
As I said prior, I can't really shoot 525's at 1350 fps, so, If I'm going to shoot 525's again it will be something like
525 @ 1000 fps for Recoil Energy of 28 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 23 fps. I LIKE shooting loads up to 40 ft-lbs, and, know I dislike loads at Recoil Energy of 52 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 30 fps(525 @ 1350 fps), or higher.
Now, I said all that to say what my experience and recoil levels are. 700 grain bullets, out of a 500 S&@ are slightly different, since the gun weighs about 73 oz. or 4.6 pounds. Mine weighs 3.6 pounds, and, does not require a carriage and a bunch of horses to carry it.
So, I'm not saying you could get 1350 with a 700 grain bullet out of the S&@, but it would recoil at:
Recoil Energy of 69 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 31 fps.
700 @ 1200 fps:
Recoil Energy of 55 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 28 fps.
700 @ 1100 fps
Recoil Energy of 46 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 25 fps.
700 @ 1000
Recoil Energy of 38 foot pounds, and Recoil Velocity of 23 fps.
So, I could happily move those big bullets at 1000 fps, and, MAYBE 1100 fps.
The rifle guys swear their is a huge difference in bullet impact and stopping power, when you move from 400 to 700 grain bullets, at rifle velocities.
Jack Huntington has told me that a neglected component in handgun stopping power is the total outside area of the bullet, as it goes through the target. In deer sized targets up, the larger bullets, that is 400 grains or more, .475 caliber and more, seem to kill out of preportion to their ft lbs of energy. As many have observed, the 440 grain 500 JRH bullets, kill like a 375 H&H rifle. Now, they have maybe 1600 ft lbs of energy, and, the 375 H&H, at least as loaded by double tap, is in the 4000-5000 ft lbs of energy range.
I'm giving you as much information as I have, because I don't know anyone that's actually shot anything with a 700 grain pistol bullet...
Wonder if any of the black powder guys shoot 700 grain bullets at those speeds?