.460 Rowland

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Read his posts about blowing guns up in the reloading section. I thought he was a nut at first too, but there is a method to his madness.

So uh about that .460 Rowland... Are you out there Rob?
 
Mulio,
I am really doing this stuff.
One guy in a gun store tried to pull back the slide and said, "If you can chamber that, you don't need a gun!" The 42 pounds is a challange to the grip. I hold the gun in my left and pull on the slide with my right.

I know allot of guys that worked thier way up to 45Super. I just noticed that the Patriot had such good chamber support that it would make it to 460 Rowland.

1) 45 acp 185 gr 1100 fps 10.2 gr AA#5 18,000 psi
2) 45 acp +P 1200 fps 10.8 gr AA#5 21,700 psi
3) 45 Super 1312 fps 12.4 gr AA#5 28,000 cup
4) 460 Rowland 1500 fps 14.5 gr AA#5 38,800 cup
http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/rowland.htm#kit
http://user.pa.net/~terdon/index.htm
http://user.pa.net/~terdon/sspage2.htm
http://www.eGroups.com/message/RepublicArmsPatriot45/255?&start=247
 
Kil,

To be honest, I didn't even get to take the .460 out into the field last fall. My hunting time was seriously reduced last year, so I have no practical field experience with the .460.

I have shot about 250-300 rounds total, so that's no real endurance test, but the gun seems to be functioning just fine.

I still think the round wil perform very well in the field. I wouldn't recomend it as an "all-around" calibre though.... The ammo is hard to find and expensive and the recoil is stiff. If you are looking for a round to use for hunting, I think you'd be happy.
 
Gentlemen,

The 460 Rowland will chamber and shoot regular 45 acp rounds, which is part of what makes it so nice.
Clark will also take a later model revolver in 45 and rechamber it to 460 Rowland for aroung $100 (last time I talked to them).
If your frame is up to it, I think this is and excellent way to get magnum performance in a 45.

Dave

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I talked to the man at Starline, where 460 Rowland brass is made, and he said that the 45 Super brass is the same design, just a hair shorter. He said that the really high pressures of 460 Rowland and 45 Super were for good chamber support guns. He said the +P brass acurally has a thicker web and is for guns with poor chamber support.

Clark Guns will not sell you a 460 Rowland pistol or converstion without a reoil compensator. Even with the heavy slide, heavy spring, and recoil compensator you are going to get slide slam.

My 42 pound spring set cuts out the slide slam at 10.3 gr AA#5, but at 14.4 gr [460 load], there is plenty of slide slam [but not enough for me to flinch].
 
I have been using the 45 Rowland for about 8 months through my 625. It is very easy to reload, no harder than the ACP. In the 625 using hot loads it feels like a .44 mag in the same gun (duh!). In my 625 with a 3" barrel it bucks like hell. With a 5" barrel it's still not pleasant but it's very manageable. Milder loads are milder and fun to shoot. The 165 grain Triton exits at about 1700 fps. The recoil makes it no more practical for defense than a .44 but it is a hoot.

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Mark
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Coelho,

I cannot find any listings for .460 Rowland on Triton's website. Where is it at? Also, does anyone know of a website where I can read up on this cartridge? Also does anyone know if anyone makes a .460 Rowland barrel for the Glock 21?
 
What you need to do is go to Triton's page and click on "Press Release". Under that there is a link for a "July 2000" release on the .460.



[This message has been edited by Schmit (edited July 23, 2000).]
 
Thanks Schmidt. It says a Glock conversion barrel will be available shortlt so that answers my question. I suppose I'll just get a G21 .45acp and wait on the conversion. I was considering a .40 super conversion or the Glock 20 10mm, but the .460 Rowland has them all beat with 230 grain bullets at 1350 fps. My purposes are for the WOW factor and for hunting. Thanks all.
 
We've reached the 100K + point on this thread. I think it may also hold the record for longevity of an interesting topic. Anyone is welcome to start part 2...
 
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