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Why not just buy a .40 S&W with an interchangeable barrel you can swap for a .357 sig barrel?

That way you buy a .40, and you only have to worry about your .357 barrel going out of date.
 
Maybe in the long-term but not likely anytime soon. Lots of government agencies are using it and it seems to be popular enough.
 
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I know of a few agencies here in New Jersey that currently carry this round. I believe a few federal agencies including the United States Secret Service and Air Marshalls use this round. I have also read that multiple state police agencies and highway patrols use this round including Delaware, Rhode Island, Virginia, Montana, and North Caroline. As long as the federal government, state, and local law enforcement agencies continue to use it, it will still be around. Supply and demand, plain and simple.

If you are worried, do what alex suggested and buy a 40 that you can swap barrels with. I have a sig p226 and It is simple to switch the 40 barrel/slide out with a .357. It even takes the same mags (they are stamped as both)
 

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Once fired brass is cheap, 9mm/.38 super bullets are cheap, once the run on primers are over small pistol primers are cheap.

Reloading and shooting 357sig is cheap, but it is so much fun.
 
It's still an issued round for some local, state and federal LEOs. Good idea to buy 40S&W and then get a 357 sig barrel idea. I have the same setup for my glock.
 
For what it's worth, I had a friend in the gun industry tell me that you should buy a 40S&W and then a 357 sig barrel, not the other way around. He claimed better accuracy if you start with a 40 and then go to 357 sig. I mentioned it on this forum before and several people said they started with a 357 sig and then went to 40S&W and they didn't have any accuracy problems.
 
My agency is looking real hard at buying new service weapons; the .357 Sig is the round they want. Last I looked, the Highway Patrol here in N.C. uses that caliber as well. My only caveats: Ammo is pretty hard to find around here [at least, it is at Wal Mart], and last...it's not a .45. But hey, if they issue it, I'll tote it.
 
I believe a few federal agencies including the United States Secret Service and Air Marshalls use this round.

Couldn't pick a worse round for an Air Marshall to carry. Overpenetration should be a concern when firing a gun on a crowded airplane, which makes the .357sig a bad choice. Also, airplanes are relatively confined spaces. Tapping off a high pressure .357sig in a confined space will almost certainly cause severe hearing loss/impairment compared to say a .45acp or a 9mm. Just a bad choice all around.
 
Couldn't pick a worse round for an Air Marshall to carry. Overpenetration should be a concern when firing a gun on a crowded airplane, which makes the .357sig a bad choice. Also, airplanes are relatively confined spaces. Tapping off a high pressure .357sig in a confined space will almost certainly cause severe hearing loss/impairment compared to say a .45acp or a 9mm. Just a bad choice all around.

Right. They have no idea what they're doing.

I think they have a tiny little bit more expertise than the average joe.

New Mexico State Police also use the round in addition to the agencies already mentioned.
 
Right. They have no idea what they're doing.

I think they have a tiny little bit more expertise than the average joe.

HAH! That's a good one. I guess the FBI and all their expertise worked out great when they issued the 10mm :rolleyes:

Don't assume just because a law enforcement agency carry a gun for a living means they are experts.

Every drawback I posted about the .357sig for Air Marshall's are completely legitimate and valid points.
 
Every drawback I posted about the .357sig for Air Marshall's are completely legitimate and valid points.

Please point me to a verified account of an overpenetration involving the round.

Don't assume just because a law enforcement agency carry a gun for a living means they are experts.

Clarify- you mean the agents, right? I think the agency itself knows what it's doing.
 
Please point me to a verified account of an overpenetration involving the round.

If you want to scour the internet for cases go for it, because I certainly wont. I don't need to do so to know that the .357sig, which was made to mimic the .357 magnum, is prone to overpenetration compared to say a 9mm or .45acp. Higher pressure rounds, that reach higher velocities, penetrate deeper and further than a lower pressure round at lower velocities.

Clarify- you mean the agents, right? I think the agency itself knows what it's doing.

Nope I meant the agency. You would like to think they know what they are doing but it's not always the case. The example I used about the FBI choosing the 10mm for their issued round was a total flop. Because of it they developed the .40. The FBI are supposed to have the highest of expertise at their fingertips. What makes the United States Air Marshalls any better?
 
If you want to scour the internet for cases go for it, because I certainly wont. I don't need to do so to know that the .357sig, which was made to mimic the .357 magnum, is prone to overpenetration compared to say a 9mm or .45acp. Higher pressure rounds, that reach higher velocities, penetrate deeper and further than a lower pressure round at lower velocities.

It doesn't work that way. You made a claim. I asked you to support it. Now you say you won't. It's because you can't- I have never seen a verified, actual account of an overpenetration with the .357 Sig round. I always ask that question when people bring it up, and no one can ever support the claim.

Nope I meant the agency. You would like to think they know what they are doing but it's not always the case. The example I used about the FBI choosing the 10mm for their issued round was a total flop. Because of it they developed the .40. The FBI are supposed to have the highest of expertise at their fingertips. What makes the United States Air Marshalls any better?

If you meant the agency your sentence wasn't written clearly.

From what I understand the FBI did not properly take into account the women agent factor. That does not mean the entire thing was a "flop."

There is no evidence to support your claim that the round is a bad choice. Do you have any idea of the criteria for the choice? There's probably more to it than we know, and I am sure they had more good reasons to choose it over anything else they could have.
 
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