350 Legend

[reynolds357]

My 450 AR shoots into one hole, recoils like a 20ga, and is a thumper with 250FTX. I don't know why Winchester keeps going the Marketing route, i.e. the Short Mags. If you want something different, get a 300 HAM'R. Mine shoots 1/2" with 135FTX at 2400.

I love my 450 B.M. It is superior in every category, including recoil.
I love guns. To me, its not 450 BM or 350 Legend. Its both. I see no problem owning both. I see no problem owning a .30-30 and a .444 Marlin. I see no problem owning a .308 Win, a .30-06, a .300 Win mag, a .300 Wby, and a .30-378 Wby.

 

[stagpanther]

Stag & I . . . . (respectfully ) disagree.

You have adapted and successfully overcome the natural limitations of the cartridge and achieved great results--that's all that matters and I fully understand why you "feel the love." I still think it's a very limited design with several weaknesses--one which blew up in my AR and almost blew up in yours! If I felt it was a really good design I would stick with it, but I have better things to concentrate on.

Peace and love to all cartridges

 

[7.62 man]

Which brand has crimped primers?

It looks like all three of the brands I bought have rings stamped around the primers. But you are right it's not a real problem a reloader can't over come.

 

[7.62 man]

I have been doing some playing with mine & I can't believe how accurate it is when you find the right ammo.

100yds shooting Winchester 150gr Deer Season XP 5 round pattern



100yds with Hornady 170gr American Whitetail SP 5 round pattern

 

[reynolds357]

I have been doing some playing with mine & I can't believe how accurate it is when you find the right ammo.

100yds shooting Winchester 150gr Deer Season XP 5 round pattern



100yds with Hornady 170gr American Whitetail SP 5 round pattern

Straightwalls are notoriously accurate.

 

[reynolds357]

It looks like all three of the brands I bought have rings stamped around the primers. But you are right it's not a real problem a reloader can't over come.

Thats not crimped. Not in the least bit crimped. Compare that to milspec brass. I have deprimed Hornaday and Winchester. Definitely not crimped.

 

[7.62 man]

Thats not crimped. Not in the least bit crimped. Compare that to milspec brass. I have deprimed Hornaday and Winchester. Definitely not crimped.

The edge of the case pushes up just like crimped brass. Look at the last picture.
If it's not crimped it may as well be because it requires the same brass care to remove it.

 

[kraigwy]

I guess I have a different take on the 350 Legion. Living in Wyoming its not the best, most of my hunting of antelope and deer is north of 300 yards.

However, after all these years my wife decided we are gonna be Snow Birds, I we bought a house on a lake in Central Arkansas, just 8 miles from my mothers place. The family still own a bit of land there and Arkansas has liberal hunting seasons, A non resident lic comes with 6 deer tags. Dont know what you know about Arkansas, but our land would make the Jungles of Vietnam look like the Barren tundra of western Alaska. You're lucky to get a shot at more then 25-40 yards.

I'm always looking for an excuse to get a new gun and I'm a big time Winchester fan. So I get an XPR Compact in 350 legion.

I am actually impressed. Couldnt find any ammo in Wyoming for the little round ( surprise) so I ordered dies, Win Brass and Hornady 170 gr bullets. Hornady list lit gun as a good powder for the legion so I pick up a pound of it to try. I found tht 27 gr pushes the 170 gr slug @ 2298 fps out of the XPR Compact and i found it to be quite accurate. It recoils about like my wifes 243 our of her Model 70. Ballisticly it hits harder then the same weight bullet out of a 30-30. Easy to load for, doesnt need crimped in the XPR bolt gun.

People mentioned using cast bullets. First off its a .355 not a 357, In lead bullets the leat 125 Gr 9mm bullet works well. Hodgen reloading data again list lit Gun and a good powder. My mold cast the 125 gr bullet at .356, and again I use 27 grs, Vel is about 2550 and doesnt shoot that bad.

I'm not replacing my 6.5 CM or 270 as a Wyoming rifle, and I certainly wouldnt use the legion on elk, but as a short range white tail gun in the thick timber of Central Arkansas i think its gonna be the cats meow.

Heck of a lot of gun banging steel to 300 yards too. Cheap to shoot. Easy to load for and brass should last quite a while.

Ammo isnt too easy to find in Wyoming, but I reload anyway.

 

[reynolds357]

The edge of the case pushes up just like crimped brass. Look at the last picture.
If it's not crimped it may as well be because it requires the same brass care to remove it.

Running through a sizing die with almost no force?
What are you having to do to remove the primers?

 

[Creek Henry]

Has anyone made a viable 357 legend wildcat? Fire forming should be easy and that would give you a much larger choice of bullets.

 

[stagpanther]

Better yet a 358 legend. KAK made some initially and I've been waiting over a year for them to start making them again, at this point it's waiting for Godot. There's a fellow on this forum who's thought about producing a run, I'd be up for it if that ever happened.

 

[armednfree]

I have one, a 20 inch AR-15. I would put it the same class as a 30-30 hunting wise. I think the advertisement is way over done.

By the way, don't judge it by the cheap Winchester 147gr FMJ. That stuff tends to be garbage. It short cycles mine and others bolts.

 

[zoo]

By the way, don't judge it by the cheap Winchester 147gr FMJ. That stuff tends to be garbage. It short cycles mine and others bolts.

Armednfree, you mean the Winchester 145 grain FMJ? They run fine out of both of the 350 AR rifle uppers I've used. Also inexpensive and great for practice.

What kind of barrel do you have on your 20" AR and what size is the feed ramp? For a while a lot of people were trying to run AR 350 rifles with standard 5.56 ramps. That's a no go. Need 300 or larger.