327 federal rifle

Even if 10% of the 327 magnum revolver owners bought a rifle I doubt it would be enough to justify a new lever gun.
Why do you think the single 7 is selling well?
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Selling well is relative. Who ever gets in 1st gets it all. And for a lever gun 95% of all the work is done. Esp for Marlin they already have the tooling for 32H&R.

Ruger thought it did well enough to come out with the SP101 in 327 magnum again.
I got one of those too. I suspect it would be more than 10% maybe more like 90%
How many new 30-30's do you think I purchased in the last year?
We are a different market, but we still are a market. And we Buy at retail prices.
 
The .327 Federal is one of many answers to an unasked question.
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Maybe YOU never asked but plenty have. Been shooting heavy .32-20 loads for years and it's a blessing to finally have a straight walled cartridge that will do the same thing and last more than a couple loadings. I'd love a lever carbine to go with my Single Seven.


Lack of Flat Point bullets maybe
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Uh no, the .32-20 has been in production for only about 142yrs so there no lack of appropriate bullets. And ANY current .32H&R bullet works in a levergun. I wonder why those with so little information still feel the need to respond.


Not to mention the cartridge was designed to do the job of a .357 in compact revolvers (6 shots of .327 vs 5 of .357)
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That's a reason??? :confused:
 
Ruger should have teamed up with a company like Marlin, Rossi or even Browning (I can dream, can't I?) to coordinate release of lever actions in .327 Federal & .480 Ruger at the same time Ruger was announcing the first revolvers in those calibers. It would have increased buzz, and helped build market share for the new calibers. In the case of the .480, it would have provided needed differentiation with the .475 Linebaugh - "might not be quite as powerful, but you can get it in a carbine, too!"

Their ammo partners (Federal [.327] & Hornady [.480]) could have helped subsidize R&D for the rifles, if the skids needed extra grease.
 
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A .480 carbine makes more sense to me than a 327 as the 480. I would be much more likely to consider it if offered in both.

Ruger has a lot on their plate right now and was selling pretty much everything they made for a few years. Maybe they will pay more attention to a few of these niches now.
 
I think we should push on Lipseys some more. They were the impetus for the Single 7. Maybe they can get another exclusive on a 327/77.
I am in.
Jason Cloessner is the guy at Lipseys to get a hold of. I dont have his email handy as my work blocks most good stuff.
 
A .480 carbine makes more sense to me than a 327 as the 480. I would be much more likely to consider it if offered in both.

Ruger has a lot on their plate right now and was selling pretty much everything they made for a few years. Maybe they will pay more attention to a few of these niches now.
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I'd buy all of the above.

I have wanted a .480 Ruger for a few years now. (I wasn't very interested when they came out, but the cartridge grew on me.)
In a lever action, it could be a lot of fun.
And, now that I'm already running another .475 rifle (with .480 Ruger / .475 Linebaugh bullets), it's not as expensive to jump in.

But, of course, I would make the .327 carbine the priority, if everything were offered at the same time.
I'm still waiting on that 77/22 Hornet action to fall into my lap....
 
The 475 custom?
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.475 Tremor - it's .458 SOCOM necked up.
Rather than deal with the issues that come from shooting .458 Win Mag and .45-70 bullets at velocities too low for proper expansion, or forking over $2+ per bullet for specialty bullets, necking up to .475" gets you into .480 Ruger / .475 Linebaugh territory.
...And being in .480/Linebaugh territory is a good thing. The velocities that those cartridges produce at the muzzle of long barrels - 1,400-1,600 fps - are roughly what .475 Tremor is doing at 50-75 yards from a 14" barrel. So you end up with the perfect velocity window for expansion on game.

It was designed by Marty, of Teppo Jutsu, for Tomy Rumore at Tromix, as a bit of a novelty, but a few of us (4 people) saw the advantage of the bore size and jumped on it.

Though mine is an AR-style rifle, .475 Tremor and the commonly available .475" handgun bullets would probably make a great lever gun package (if you can find a lever gun that can handle the .541" case body diameter).
 
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Never... Because 357/.38 special can do anything anyone would want from a pistol caliber lever action in relation to what could be achieved instead from a 327 mag. Aside from providing a matching rifle for a 327 revolver.

That means there would not be enough sales to justify it's production.

Would be fun though I'm sure :D
 
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Never... Because 357/.38 special can do anything anyone would want from a pistol caliber lever action in relation to what could be achieved instead from a 327 mag. Aside from providing a matching rifle for a 327 revolver.

That means there would not be enough sales to justify it's production.

Would be fun though I'm sure
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Well actually thats not true. But it is true enough when it comes to perceptions.
So that may hold it out.
So it may be true we will never see a 327 magnum lever gun. Because there is a bias against it. Hence ^
I have a 38/357 lever gun and I can tell you 100% it cant do what i would do with a 327 lever gun.
 
If one of the guns currently being manufactured by a bigbrand can be EASILY converted, they might have an interest. Otherwise I don't think there is much chance of it happening.
A shop like Big Horn Armory might be able to make a profit at their volume and price point.
 
Never... Because 357/.38 special can do anything anyone would want from a pistol caliber lever action in relation to what could be achieved instead from a 327 mag. Aside from providing a matching rifle for a 327 revolver.
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You could easily say the 357 rifle does nothing ,... that the 44mag/spec wont do. Hunting deer size game with 357 instead of any 44mag makes no sense to me.

I see little purpose for 357 revolver today. The 40 auto and others now dominate the professional and personal role 357 used to fill. Hunting with a 357 is sorry second to any 44 or 45 in that role, except small stuff easily handled with 22/22mag.

Atleast the 327 is available in the single 7, which is easy to carry and shoot as a 22 with the power approximating the 38/357 class guns (energy not knock down). I have one of those 7's and while I dont need it, I like it. I personally would not want either a 357 or 327 in a rifle, one makes exactly as much sense as the other to me. Why would someone argue against either? What the heck.

My friend has a 357 Ruger 77 and it seems a fun gun. That should be good enough to justify either. And, Like most I know, He has no 357 revolver. If the 327 is smaller and faster than the 357, that could be a nitch to fill. That lipsey/ruger route sounded reasonable.
 
I think were allot of people get lost at is all they think about is the top end.
" Why would I want a 327 when a 357 can do better?"
That is not the point and certainly not were mine would get the most use.
I use the heck out of my single 7 for small game.
I tailor specific loads for the expected game and expected ranges and desired energy on target.
I usually have four different loads in the gun as I amble though the woods.
A SW short load, Two SWL loads, two 32H&R loads, and two 327 loads. The case bases are color coded so I can see what load is in line.
Then I have my 32-20 with for longer shots.
It works but I am stuck with the one case size for the 32-20. And I can work it up or down to get what I want. But your always accepting a trade off having excess case volume.
The single 7 has spoiled me. When you can create loads that offer the same POA just changing the projectile profile and energy on target.
Just turn the cylinder to the proper load for the target at hand.
I want to be able to do that with my rifle. A good single shot would suffice for me. maybe a H&R or Rossi with a custom barrel. I may do that if no one gets off the SNI and make me a lever gun.
I actually have a AK barrel blank to possibly make a 327 mag barrel for my Rossi wizard. SO eventually I will get what I want.
( need has nothing to do with it) Learn to shoot a 32 to effect and you will be amazed at what it can do.
 
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I have a 32 mag lever action I never shoot. I doubt that it has 75 rounds through it. My 357 marlin has several hundred rounds through it. The 357 lever gun is my favorite of all the guns I own. I just don't get to shoot much like I use to.

My 32 mag lever gun is fun to shoot and makes good power from that small round. And no, it will not feed 32 longs. After about the second one it jams. I doubt that a 327 rifle would reliably feed 32 mag rounds.

If marlin came out with a 327 rifle I wouldn't buy one. My 357 does what I need it to do and in reloading for it I can cover a lot of bases with it. I haven't killed a deer with it but know it would work just fine. I did kill one deer with my 44 mag lever gun. It killed about as well as you could ask for. The deer was impressed.:D

A single shot rifle on the other hand is a different matter. I have wanted a 32 mag single shot for a long time.
 
How much do you want for that 32 mag lever gun??

Wait!! dont answer that. If you did i would not be able to help myself.
And I really need to stay under control.:rolleyes:
 
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These are arguments I see frequently, re: 357 vs. 44 mag, or 45 Colt. It can be taken to an absurd extreme, such as a 37mm anti-tank gun, as there is nothing a 45 Colt can do that the 37 can't do better! ;) --If you like a 32 magnum, that's just fine with me. If you prefer a revolver to an auto pistol, that's fine with me too. They are all a whole lot of fun.

The concept of a 32 Mag has proven itself, though not directly, and not recently. There are many, many, lever rifles chambered in 32-20, which is a dandy small game rifle, and surprisingly versatile.

I have great fun with my 357 magnum lever rifle. It is a great plinker, and with RNFP cast bullets, has a spectacular downrange performance in that role. I would expect similar results from a 32 magnum.

Too bad there aren't a whole lot of rifles chambered for the cartridge. Perhaps you will be able to find one at some point, OP. Perhaps the rarity will bump the price you pay a little bit, but should you decide to sell it, that same rarity will perhaps improve your resale value.
 
" Why would I want a 327 when a 357 can do better?"
That is not the point and certainly not were mine would get the most use.
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Most people don't consider buying multiple lever guns. Especially multiple lever guns in pistol cartridges. The market is tiny.
 
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