2a rights looking grim right about now.

I see little moves into restriction occurring. The Democrats (and a few Republicians) will start passing laws that adversely effect gun owners. A lot of gun owners will look at the law and say, "I can live with that."

Then, there'll be another one.... and then, another one....

Soon, we'll be be in a world of hurt.

The Brady Bunch have already said they will utilize that approach. Pelosi has already said she would gladly take away all of the guns. Her like-minded allies have said the same.

I personally think gun issues are going to be an issue. I may be wrong- I have been in the past. :o

But, I'm sure if a wide-sweeping plan is instituted, there will be a backlash. Hopefully, it won't be too late.
 
However, some speculate that the ban would go retroactive, making current owners felons. I doubt that. They haven't even pulled that one off in commie-fornia.
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They haven't? I thought the SKSs and AR receivers that were retroactively declared assault weapons were being confiscated.
 
The AWB cost the Dems dearly and I'm sure they remember that. They may not wish to rile the gun people, given that a lot of their wins were close, and that people voted against the Republicans as a repudiation of Bush and the Iraq incursion, not for the Dems.
 
My gut reaction is that the Blue-Dog Dems will keep the worst of it off the table. I'd look for taxation on ammunition and "closing the gun show loophole" (as they call it) if they do anything at all.
Still, it doesn't hurt to be prepared. Now is as good a time as any to get into reloading JIC. If there are some major purchases you'd like to make...no time like the present.
 
To be perfectly blunt here.
There's a lot of people here (and a lot more on THR) who claim to be "hard-core wolves living amongst the sheep". These are the ones who are doing the most amount of whining and sniveling over events that have not even transpired yet. The ones who loudly brag how the sight of a gun makes the "sheeple" pee their pants are doing the peeing right now.
It's downright embarassing.

I haven't heard one Democrat mention gun-control yet, and won't take office until January, but according to the "wolves", the jack-booted thugs of the liberal/socialist/communist leftists should be at your door tomorrow.

At least wait until one of them actually proposes a new gun law before hitting the panic button. Until that happens, just relax!
 
I think the states are going to be the battlegrounds. There are 7 states-New York, New Jersey and California come to mind-where there is no RKBA
in the State Constitution, and others-Massachusetts, Connecticutt, where it
is but has been gutted. And of course semi-autonomous city-states such as
NYC and Chicago where local gun laws are in effect.
 
and many of the new Democrats in congress are conservative
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Ever hear of the tactic of telling the voter what they want to hear just to get elected??

Yeah, individual Demonrats might be conservative, but it's the leadership that says what goes and they aren't!!

I just heard Bushco's news conference and it's obvious to me that George is willing, even eager, to cow-tow to the Dem's every wish!! Just look how fast he threw Don Rumpsfeld to the socialist wolves!!

Gun bans are on the way!!

Patriotic Americans are soon going to have a choice.
Drop your guns into the dumpster at the end of your street, go to jail, or use the Second Amendment in the manner which the Founding Fathers meant it to be used!!
 
Drop your guns into the dumpster at the end of your street, go to jail, or use the Second Amendment in the manner which the Founding Fathers meant it to be used!!
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Oh, please can we for once have a discussion without the silliness?

WildarisearisearmedinsurrectionontherisefightfightfightthelibsarecomingjeezimgonnapukeAlaska
 
Just look how fast he threw Don Rumpsfeld to the socialist wolves!!
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Umm, guess you haven't noticed. But Rummie has been under the gun from Dems AND Republicans for over two years now. I'm not personally saying he's done a poor job, but he's hardly been thrown under the bus; nor is it Democratic pressure that caused him to go. The pressure that matters to Bush's is coming from his own party.

it's obvious to me that George is willing, even eager, to cow-tow to the Dem's every wish!!
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That's one of the most unenlightened statements I've ever heard, Den. What possible gain would there be for him? He's a 2nd Term President....he's going nowhere after leaving office. Are you claiming that he's "frightened" of Nancy Pelosi? That he's eager to help her pass her agenda?

Sure, he'll work with them on his crazy Guest Worker program, but that's not gonna fly either. Both sides are already campaigning for 2008.
Rich
 
mthalo said:

To be perfectly blunt here.
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When a sense of bluntness is all you've got, go with it.

There's a lot of people here (and a lot more on THR) who claim to be "hard-core wolves living amongst the sheep". These are the ones who are doing the most amount of whining and sniveling over events that have not even transpired yet.
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Whining and sniveling? That's rather libelous. Certainly there is some overheated rhetoric being bandied about, but the concern is genuine. The same tired old crowd of nincompoops that head the Democratic Party has been returned to positions with the actual power to meddle. Did The Swimmer get thrown out? No. Pelosi? No. McCarthy? No. Emanuel? No. Clinton? No. Feinstein? No. We know these people by what they do, not what they say. Any concern over their intentions is well placed.

The ones who loudly brag how the sight of a gun makes the "sheeple" pee their pants are doing the peeing right now.
It's downright embarassing.
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What is even more embarrassing is taking any pride is supporting a party that in turn supports the very worst enemies of RKBA. But who's counting?

I haven't heard one Democrat mention gun-control yet, and won't take office until January, but according to the "wolves", the jack-booted thugs of the liberal/socialist/communist leftists should be at your door tomorrow.
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Well that is just ignorant. It will take longer than tomorrow, but it won't take much longer than mid-January for an RKBA SHTF scenario to start anew.

Any bets as to who will initiate the next round of gun control?

At least wait until one of them actually proposes a new gun law before hitting the panic button. Until that happens, just relax!
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Waiting for the enemy to strike has proven to work so well in the past. Of course since your other postings make clear that you have no problem being an enabler of gun control, I am hardly surprised.
 
Everyone seems to have their panties in a wad over the prospect of new restrictive gun laws.

Well, here's a little test we can all watch: There are several PRO gun laws that have been moving through both Houses that would make things easier for gun rights.
Now let's see how many of those go through... or are stopped in their tracks.

I'll take up a new bet that NONE of that beneficial (to gun right advocates) legislation will ever see the light of day again, and once the Dems have cleaned up that "mess", they'll immediately start working on the more restrictive gun laws. Remember, the ultra Left now believes that they have a MANDATE to govern.

The Dems were furious that the Clinton AWB sunsetted, and I can guarantee that bringing it back and making it permanent will be one of the goals of the Dems in the near future.

Here's some interesting post-election comments taken directly off the Brady website:

Here are some random election observations (both related to the Brady Campaign and more general):

1. Candidates supporting a common sense approach to gun violence prevention did very well. In races where the Brady Campaign endorsed candidates went head-to-head with competing candidates endorsed by the NRA, Brady won 5 of 5 Governorships (Patrick in MA, O’Malley in MD, Rendell in PA, Doyle in WI, and Blagojevich in IL) and 4 of 4 U.S. Senate seats (Cardin in MD, Cantwell in WA, Stabenow in ME, and Nelson in FL). Candidates endorsed by the Brady Campaign won over 95% of their races. It appears that candidates endorsed as “A” rated by the NRA lost in 109 U.S. House races and 18 U.S. Senate Races.
At least four of six U.S. Senate candidates that the NRA spent more than $1 million in total trying to re-elect went down to defeat, and the other two are losing. On the other hand, supporters of common sense gun laws in the Senate, like Dianne Feinstein, Hillary Rodham Clinton, Edward Kennedy, Deborah Stabenow and Richard Lugar were reelected handily.

In multiple key battles for Congressional seats supporters of tougher gun laws won, including Pennsylvania’s Joe Sestak, Ohio’s Betty Sutton and Colorado’s Ed Perlmutter. “I’m so grateful to the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence for supporting me early on,” Perlmutter said. “Not only did they help me win my primary, they’ve helped bring the issue of gun violence front and center in Colorado’s 7th district.”
The gun lobby lost key Gubernatorial fights where the candidates waged brutal policy battles publicly over guns in Illinois, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania. It lost Governors’ mansions in the other states as well, including Massachusetts, Maryland, New York, and Colorado, where victors Deval Patrick, Martin O’Malley, Eliot Spitzer and Bill Ritter proudly accepted the Brady Campaign endorsement. Keep checking our web page for additional details.

Gun rights advocates may not be screwed at this very moment, but give it a couple more moments...

Carter
 
I haven't heard one Democrat mention gun-control yet,
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You mean between last night and today??



As of July there were approx. 60 gun-related gun bills proposed in this past (109th) session of congress...how do you think those that are anti-gun will go next time?
 
Tyranny doesn't happen over night, by the time people realise that's its time to fight, they have nothing to fight with. Relax were screwed either way, republican or democrat.
 
Any concern over their intentions is well placed.
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Concern is one thing, panic is another. I don't hear to many of the wolves coming out with any suggestions on how to defend the Second Amendment, just a lot of "it's YOUR fault the Dems got voted in".

What is even more embarrassing is taking any pride is supporting a party that in turn supports the very worst enemies of RKBA. But who's counting?
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I'm not sure of the point you're trying to make here.


Well that is just ignorant. It will take longer than tomorrow, but it won't take much longer than mid-January for an RKBA SHTF scenario to start anew.
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I think everyone here knows I'm not being literal (Thursday, Nov 9th, 2006)


Waiting for the enemy to strike has proven to work so well in the past. Of course since your other postings make clear that you have no problem being an enabler of gun control, I am hardly surprised.
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1) How about a suggestion or two as to what an effective pre-emptive strike would be.
2) I'm not sure how I'm enabling gun-control, I voted for NO Democrats in this election or any other over the last 20 years. I'm to point out that
the common method of declaring anyone with a different opinion to be a "sheep", "commie" or other derogatory term is NOT the best way to influence people. If that is enabling gun control, I guess I'm guilty.
 
The good news it that gridlock and a few conservative democrats will stop gun control--for now. More good news is that a good number of Republicans that are gone were RINOs who weren't really our friends on this issue anyway.

The Republicans must stop the bleeding though. If we keep losing seats, gun rights will go down the tubes. A lot of dems know guns have hurt them in the past--but institutional memory is short. Eventually, all those urban voters will clamor for gun control again, and they will have to give it to them. That will be when all the RKBA folks, who have been spoiled by the good years under Republicans, will learn what happens when you "teach em' a lesson."

Allright folks, you got your Democratic congress, now prepare to reap the whirlwind.

GHB
 
Whining and sniveling? That's rather libelous.
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It's not libelous or incorrect. I find it interesting to see so many people reacting with such horror / shock / sky is falling / damn you independant voters / fire and brimstone / ohmeffjee we lost postings. The best ones are punctuated with little pixel smilies vomiting or being on fire with rage, because those ones remind me of incoherent myspace rants about rap or hair gel.

Actually, I see many people acting just as loony on the internet about this as the "other side" did in 2004. Highly amusing.

Emotional investment to the exclusion of rational thought much?
 
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