.25 acp head shot

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I agree with Bill. It is what it is, one must just use what one has and use it the best possible way.

My little Beretta 950 is a lovely little pistol that goes absolutely everywhere. I know that it is there to be used at distances of 5to 30cm for maximum effect so i will try and use it from those distances. I will shoot for the face, throat and head area and it will work and deliver. ( thanx to this forum i now know it will penetrate the skull)
 
The above statement is very true. The one above that... not so much. There have been several cases where 9mm and larger failed to penetrate the skull. There are too many variables to consider.

Yes, it MIGHT penetrate, but I would NOT depend on it.
 
It would be interesting to know how those who dismiss the .25 ACP as a defensive round would choose between taking one round to the head vs. doing something likely (but not 100%) resulting in death, like jumping out a 4th floor window onto concrete.
 
There are documented cases of practically every caliber failing to penetrate the skull cavity especially if the round is delivered high on the head, say eyebrows up.

This reminds me of a news story from a couple of years ago. A woman was shot in the head during a road rage incident. She took a .44 special to the forehead from a distance of 10 feet. For some strange reason, the slug broke in half when striking her skull, and both fragments travelled along the skull, underneath the scalp, and exited out behind her ears. Her skull wasn't even fractured, and she literally walked away uninjured from the assault.

Strange things happen sometimes during shootings, regardless of the caliber or gun used.
 
If a bullet traveled around her skull UNDER her scalp, I can't believe she walked away "unhurt".:confused:
I'm thinking that the impact on the head from a .44SPL whether it penetrated the skull or not, could knock you out and cause deep scalp wounds which normally results in profuse bleeding. :eek:
"Walked away unhurt" I don't think so.
(Disclaimer: this post is MHO not based on any medical or scientific fact)
 
Valid information indicates that the Russian OGPU/KGB did in fact use blanks for indoor executions. The gun was in contact with the head of the victim and the blast blew part of the skull into the brain. The advantage for the executioners was that there were no bullets to overpenetrate or riccochet. There were no advantages for the victim.

Jim
 
Jim Keenan said:
Valid information indicates that the Russian OGPU/KGB did in fact use blanks for indoor executions. The gun was in contact with the head of the victim and the blast blew part of the skull into the brain. The advantage for the executioners was that there were no bullets to overpenetrate or riccochet. There were no advantages for the victim.


Sure worked on John-Eric Hexum's little self-inflicted oops!


As for .25's to the skull, had one incident as an EMT, thug 1 shoots thug 2 (lifelong friends no less, but booze makes fools) in the forehead from about 20 feet with a Raven .25, and it bounced off leaving a nasty gouge in his forehead.

Victim was fully conscious and alert and rather irate at his friend all the way to the ER. :)
 
There is a man in a neighboring town with five dimples on his forehead, the scars left over from being shot in the head with a 25 auto pistol. The man who shot him was his son and he was tried for attempted murder. He was acquitted because he had a lot of character witnesses for him and the witnesses against the man who was shot saying his son should have used a bigger gun. The son lost his gunsmithing business but he is still a free man without a criminal conviction and the old man apparently isn't quite as big a rectum like he used to be. Apparently he was a little taken aback by the fact so many people disliked him and he had no friends.

What nobody can figure out with all the guns available to the son, why did he use such a gun.
 
What nobody can figure out with all the guns available to the son, why did he use such a gun.
Maybe he actually believed the apocryphal stories about how Mafia hit men, KGB agents, and/or Mossad assassins prefer small calibers. :rolleyes:
 
Maybe he actually believed the apocryphal stories about how Mafia hit men, KGB agents, and/or Mossad assassins prefer small calibers.
More likely it was just what he happened to have in his pocket that day. He was in his shop working and his dad came in mad about something, he was always mad about something. He picked up a hammer and threatened his son who pulled out the 25 and just started shooting. Then he did first aid on the old man, called the sheriff, handed over his gun and said he shot him. The deputies didn't have a choice but to arrest him, he never once claimed self defense but everybody on this end of the county who knew both of them had already figured out it was. The DA who is also my lawyer wasn't to broken up about losing the case. If he had won he probably wouldn't be the DA today. I love small towns.
 
I remember an episode of COPS, a guy put a .357 to his head, pulled the trigger, then called 911 for himself after it didn't work.:eek: The cops that showed up were flabbergasted,to say the least. That episode really opened my eyes, like everyone's been saying, there's no guarentees.
 
It is really too bad...

that any one of Ted Bundy's victims were not packing a 'too small to carry caliber' to test that theory.
 
I carry a 25acp Beretta Jetfire quit often. It is quite accurate at 7 yards. I have and carry bigger guns but the little gun is so handy. I adjust my carry to the situation. A head shot isn't something I would plan on doing.
 
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