.243 as a Military round.

George Hill

Staff Alumnus
We have long debated the optimum caliber of choice for arming our troops. .223 vs .308 vs 7.62X39mm... Lets take a look at other caliber options.

The more I look at .243 the more I like it... But I am not well versed in this caliber. In fact - I have never owned a rifle in this caliber, or admitedly even fired it. I have however talked to many folks who love it as a general use round, hunting, and plinking. The .243 owners swear by this caliber. Glowing orations of its ability... with the spice of exagerations of course...
Educate this Admin about .243 and the pros and cons of it. :D

I'm thinking this caliber would be the IDEAL candidate to replace the .223 round we currently use.
Also - the new rifle this would go in. A FAL type action, shortened, lightened, and bullpupped... optical gunsited. What do you guys think?
 
Necked UP?

The .308 bore diameter is 7.62mm. It's necked DOWN to 7mm, not up, unless 7mm-08's actual bore diameter is like 7.7mm, which would be silly, but possible.

Anyway, I think a 6mm round would be great, but one with more compact case dimensions, to allow greater magazine capacity without excessive weight.

Here's what Chuck Hawks http://www.teleport.com/~chalu/index2.htm has to say about the .243 as a military cartridge.



NEW .243 SERVICE RIFLE CARTRIDGE, A PROPOSAL

(part one, as the whole thing is too long for one post)

By Chuck Hawks



During my high school ROTC days, and later while on active duty with the United States Air Force, I had the opportunity to fire the M-1 Garand service rifle in .30-06 Spfd., the M-1 carbine in .30 Carbine, and the M-16 assault rifle in 5.56mm NATO. I also qualified with the S&W .38 Special service revolver, which was the U.S.A.F. sidearm of choice at the time. As a civilian, I have had some experience with sundry military caliber bolt action rifles, a .45-70 single shot rifle, the .45 Colt Single Action Army revolver, the .45 ACP M-1911 pistol, and the 9x19 Beretta 92 pistol, all of which types have been service standard at one time or another. This meager exposure to military small arms certainly does not make me an expert (although I did qualify as an "Expert" shooter, the top shooting classification in the Air Force), nor does my lifelong interest in the (civilian) sporting use of firearms.

However, like many shooters and gun enthusiasts, I am always interested in firearms related topics. One subject that has been hotly debated ever since the 5.56mm NATO (.223 Rem.) cartridge replaced the 7.62mm NATO (.308 Win.) as service standard for infantry rifles is the formers suitability as a military cartridge. This naturally brings up the question, if one is not a fan of the 5.56mm, of what its replacement should be.

As hunting cartridges, the .223 Rem. is best described as a varmint (ground hog) cartridge, and the .308 Win. as an "all-around" (antelope, deer, elk) cartridge. Since enemy soldiers are approximately the size of deer, not groundhogs, the .308 is the obvious choice between the two. But the U.S. military, led by the U.S.A.F. (which was the first service to adopt the .223 cartridge and the M-16 rifle to fire it), decided otherwise. Apparently the overriding factor was the greatly reduced recoil of the .223, which allowed a very high rate of fire and (most of all) didn't intimidate the inexperienced conscripts that formed the bulk of the U. S. military at the time. Comparing both cartridges in 7.5 pound rifles, the .223 firing a 62 grain bullet at a 3,020 fps. generates only 4.07 ft. lbs. of recoil energy; the .308 firing a 150 grain bullet at 2,800 fps. generates 17.72 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. (All recoil figures are taken from the "Rifle Recoil Table" on my Guns & Shooting Page.)

The 5.56mm NATO and the M-16 rifle first proved themselves in the bloody and often short-range fighting of the Vietnam War. (Ironically, so did its main competition in the world military small arms market, the Russian 7.62x39 cartridge and AK-47 rifle, only on the other side.) But just because the handy .22 caliber M-16 rifle proved generally superior to the larger and heavier .30 caliber M-14 rifle for short range jungle combat in Vietnam does not mean that it is the optimum service rifle for all wars and theaters. In the intervening years, the advantages of the 5.56mm cartridge have become obvious, and so have its shortcomings. Perhaps it is time to initiate a dialogue about its future replacement.

On the 5.56mm's plus side are its low recoil, flat trajectory, and relatively small size (compared to the 7.62mm NATO service round). The light weight of the rifles that chamber it, and its suitability for selective fire rifles that offer single, 3 round burst, or full automatic fire are also pluses.

Compared to its main competition in the infantry rifle cartridge sweepstakes, the 7.62x39 Soviet, the 5.56mm NATO cartridge has much higher velocity (for flatter trajectory), and slightly more energy downrange. Neither actually has much punch at medium to long range: at 200 yards they have 860-875 ft. lbs. of energy, and at 300 yards they are down to only 655-710 ft. lbs. (The velocity, energy, trajectory, and wind drift figures quoted in this article are taken from the 1998 Federal, Remington, and Winchester ammunition catalogs.) When you consider that 900 ft. lbs. of remaining bullet energy is generally considered the minimum for reliably killing an inoffensive deer, these numbers are not impressive. For what it's worth, at each range the slightly higher figure belongs to the 5.56mm.

On the 5.56mm NATO's debit side are its low energy, small caliber wound channel, poor ballistic coefficient, and poor sectional density. The first two factors are responsible for its poor killing power; the last two factors contribute to excessive wind drift and poor penetration, especially at longer ranges. Except for its larger diameter bullet (.30"), the 7.62x39 Soviet cartridge has the same drawbacks as the 5.56mm, plus considerably lower velocity, which makes it very difficult to hit long range targets.

Although many experts consider the 7.62x39 slightly superior it is, at best, a step sideways from the 5.56mm. Any proposed replacement should preserve, as much as possible, the virtues of the 5.56mm NATO (primarily light recoil and flat trajectory) while correcting its deficiencies in penetration, wind drift, and killing power.

Which brings us to the consideration of a replacement for the .223 service cartridge. It has been nearly 40 years since the U.S. military's decision in favor of the .223 Remington cartridge, and NATO's (reluctant) acceptance of the cartridge as the 5.56mm. Ever since the adoption of the miniature round, I have wondered why the military went for such a small caliber. The disadvantages are obvious to anyone with a rudimentary knowledge of exterior ballistics. In view of the controversy still surrounding this choice, it seems reasonable to speculate about a new service cartridge for the U.S. and NATO.

After careful consideration, I would like to propose that the .243 Winchester cartridge be considered as the successor to the 5.56mm NATO. The military would undoubtedly call the cartridge the "6mm NATO."

I chose the .243 Win. partly because of the old 6mm Lee Navy rifle of 1895, which was once service standard for the U.S. Navy. Thus, the U.S. military has some history with 6mm cartridges. I admit that the 6mm Remington, .257 Roberts, and other similar cartridges would serve about as well as the .243. I favor the latter because it is the best known and most popular of all the .24-.25 caliber cartridges, and because it was created by simply necking down the 7.62mm NATO case. I thought that case commonality would appeal to the military, and simplify mass production of both cartridges in wartime. (The 7.62mm remains the standard NATO machine gun cartridge.)

I also took a long look at the .25-08 wildcat and .260 Rem., both also based on a necked down .308 case. I determined that the .243 offered better penetration than the .25-08 with the same weight bullet at the same velocity, due to superior sectional density (SD), at no increase in recoil. The situation is similar when comparing the .243 to the .260, only more so. With the same weight bullet at the same velocity, the .260 is inferior to both the .25-08 and the .243 in penetration. The .260 requires approximately a 15% increase in bullet weigh to equal the .243 in sectional density (and thus penetration). I suspect that the military would find the resultant increase in recoil and decrease in velocity unacceptable.

Remember, the purpose of this exercise it to retain, as much as possible, the low recoil and flat trajectory of the 5.56mm NATO while addressing its shortcomings. The .243 preserves these benefits better than any of the other contenders. The .243 would have several significant advantages over the current 5.56mm NATO, which I will discuss in the following paragraphs.

Clearly, the .243 offers a modest but worthwhile increase in bullet diameter and frontal area. This increases lethality by enlarging the wound channel.

The sectional density of an 85-100 grain .24 caliber (6mm) bullet is far superior to that of any .22 caliber bullet (I favor bullets in the 90-95 grain range for the .243). It also compares favorably to .30 caliber bullets. Sectional density is the ratio of a bullet's weight in pounds to the square of its diameter in inches. Other things being equal, sectional density is the primary factor in determining penetration. Thus, if we are comparing two similar non-expanding boat tail spitzer bullets (like typical military full metal jacket ball ammunition), fired at the same velocity, the one with the greater sectional density will penetrate deepest.

A 55 grain bullet for the 5.56mm NATO has a SD of only .157. A 150 grain bullet for the 7.62mm NATO has a SD of .226. This explains why, when the military changed from the 7.62mm (.30 cal.) to the 5.56mm (.22 cal.), they found that it didn't penetrate nearly as well. The poor penetration of the 55 grain .22 bullet led to the eventual adoption of the heavier 62 grain bullet for the 5.56mm NATO cartridge. Muzzle velocity fell to around 3,000 fps. Sectional density was increased to .177. Penetration improved, but is still considerably inferior to that of the 150 grain .30 caliber bullet. If we adopted the .243 Win. with a 95 grain bullet, whose SD is .230 (slightly better than the 150 grain .30 bullet), penetration would easily exceed that of the 62 grain .22 bullet. This is a valid comparison, as the .243 can drive a 95 grain bullet at 3,100 fps. I think it is clear that the .243 is a winner compared to the 5.56mm or the 7.62mm in terms of sectional density and penetration.
 
PART TWO

.243 bullets are also winners in terms of ballistic coefficient (BC). Without getting too technical, ballistic coefficient indicates a bullet's ability to overcome air drag. This is important for flat trajectory, and for minimizing wind drift. (The higher the BC, the slower a bullet sheds velocity, and consequently the less it drifts in the wind.) Balisitic coefficient is influenced by many factors, and changes with velocity, so all BC figures should be taken as approximate.

For example, a typical .30 caliber, 150 grain, boat tail spitzer bullet has a BC of .423. A standard 55 grain FMJ-boat tail spitzer for the 5.56mm NATO has a BC of only .269, despite its very streamlined appearance. At typical 5.56mm velocities, this bullet's lateral drift at 300 yards in a light 10 MPH crosswind is 14.2 inches. This is enough to blow a perfectly aimed bullet completely off a man-size target! The 5.56mm 62 grain FMJ-boat tail spitzer has a BC of .307. This is still very inferior to the .404 BC of an 85 grain boat tail spitzer bullet for the .243 Win. A 100 grain boat tail spitzer for the .243 Win. has a BC of .430. At typical .243 velocities, the 85 grain bullet's lateral drift at 300 yards in a 10 MPH crosswind is only 6.3 inches; the 100 grain bullet drifts only 6.1 inches.

The 5.56mm NATO is a flat-shooting cartridge, much better than the 7.62x39 and somewhat superior to the 7.62mm NATO. From a rifle zeroed at 200 yards, its 55 grain bullet at a MV of 3,240 fps. hits 37.8 inches below the point of aim at 500 yards.

For comparison, a 150 grain 7.62mm NATO bullet at a MV of 2,820 fps. hits 46 inches low at 500 yards. Zero a 7.62x39 Soviet rifle at 200 yards, and the bullet hits 90.6 inches low at 500 yards. (That's over 7 1/2 feet below the point of aim!)

But the .243 shoots as flat as the 5.56mm. From a rifle zeroed at 200 yards, the 100 grain bullet at a MV of 2,960 fps. hits only 37.6 inches below the point of aim at 500 yards. The 85 grain bullet drops even less.

Clearly, when it comes to slipping through the air, the .24 caliber bullets are among the best. As civilian varmint shooters have known for years, the .243 is an excellent long range cartridge that combines a very flat trajectory with minimum wind drift.

Civilian deer, sheep, goat, and antelope hunters know that the .243 Win. is a much better killer on animals in the 100-350 pound class than the .223 Rem. An 85 grain .243 boat tail spitzer bullet at a muzzle velocity of 3,320 fps. retains 1,510 ft. lbs. of energy at 200 yards, 1,280 ft. lbs. at 300 yards, 1,070 ft. lbs. at 400 yards, and 890 ft. lbs. at 500 yards. The 100 grain bullet retains 925 ft. lbs. at 500 yards (Federal figures). The .243 is more lethal at 500 yards than the 5.56mm NATO or 7.62x39 are at 200 yards!

Civilian shooters have also learned that the recoil of the .243, even in a lightweight rifle, is quite tolerable for extended shooting sessions. Light recoil is very desirable, not only to avoid flinching and promote accurate shooting, but because modern military rifles must be capable of delivering rapid aimed fire. (Rapid unaimed fire is pointless--you can't miss fast enough to win a gunfight.) To shoot both quickly and accurately, recovery time from full recoil must be rapid. While the .243 Win. kicks more than the 5.56mm NATO, it kicks much less than the 7.62mm NATO, and does in fact allow quick recovery. A 7.5 pound .243 rifle shooting an 85-100 grain bullet generates around 10 ft. lbs. of recoil energy. This is about half of what an experienced shooter can tolerate. Even inexperienced shooters will not find this bothersome. Light recoil (plus flat trajectory and proven effectiveness) is why the .243 is such a popular hunting cartridge, and so widely recommended for youth, women, and anyone sensitive to recoil.

A modern selective fire military rifle with single fire and three-shot burst capability should be easy to develop for the .243 Win. cartridge. After all, the .243 case is based on the 7.62mm NATO case, which was developed specifically for use in automatic rifles. Sustained fully automatic fire is also quite possible for a 6mm service rifle, although I question its value. Even with a cartridge as under powered as the 5.56mm NATO, full auto fire has proven to be a waste of ammunition. Bullets must be aimed if they are to hit the target, and experience has shown that if a shooter can't hit the target with his first three shots, he probably won't hit the target at all.

On the other hand, a bipod mounted light machine gun (a successor to the old BAR) chambered for the long range, hard hitting .243 Win. cartridge might be a very effective weapon. But that is a subject for another article.

It seems to me that these factors bode well for the success of the .243 Win. as a military cartridge. Should we begin calling it the "6mm NATO"?
 
Problem w/ .243 is length of round, what I mean is the rifle that is built to fire the .243 round will have a long receiver length.

So as an alternative how about a .243 x45, (is that right?) like a necked up .223 cartridge. Now, I don't know the current state of the ballistics for the round but, at least all we would have to do is re-barrel the M-16.
 
That is a very excellent write-up. It is still my belief that a slightly modified(stronger case for higher pressure), 6mm PPC is hands down the way to go...
 
Interesting side note:

According to their full page ad in the Shotgun News Treasury, DS Arms makes its SA-58 FAL carbines in .243, and they even use the same magazines. :D
 
Guys,

According to Randolph Constantine in his EXCELLENT book, "Modern Highpower Competition" across the course shooters like to experiment with different calibers & cartridges to hopefully find an "edge". After G. David Tubb won the Natl. Champs one year recently with a .243 Win. bolt rifle, many others climbed on the bandwagon to have a "look-see" by re-barreling their match rifles to .243 Win or 6mm Rem.

This time of experimentation with the 6mm lasted only a year or 2. It did not take highpower competitors long to find that accurate barrel life with 6mm bores was only in the neighborhood of 1200 or 1500 rounds. This is a fraction of the normal "good life" of a .223 or .308 barrel.

It seems that the small dia. bore combined with the large capacity combustion chamber (brass case) made for much higher temps and a longer temp-pressure curve than for a normal small caliber case (.223) or for the same case with a larger bore (.308). The result was very rapid throat erosion and resultant loss of accuracy.

If he was a serious competitor, the experimental shooter had to replace barrels 2 or 3 times each season. Not economical in actual $$ or in downtime when the rifle was out being re-barreled.

In further experimentation, these same competitors determined that going to a slightly larger caliber of 6.5 mm or 7mm avoided all these problems. Ballistics with these calibers was just as good as with the 6mm and barrel life rivaled the .223 and .308.

It is entirely possible that the military has already come to similar conclusions......

my .02
Swampy
 
I compare the two NATO cartridges with radios. .223 kinda like UHF, line of sight. 7.62 NATO more like VHF, can often get through when there is something in the way.

We no longer have a main battle rifle, capable of aimed fire out to a reasonable distance with the ability to chew through things that the target considers cover. Like little trees, woodpiles, walls etc.

Wonder why most folks stayed with the 7.62 NATO for the light machine guns.

.243 should be a great improvement over the .223 as a battle rifle but I don't see any advantage over the 7.62 NATO. If it isn't going to allow you to carry more ammo for a lighter gun, then why bother? Bit of diffference in bullet drop at 500 yds.....that's why we have adjustable sights and why we train (or used to) RIFLEMEN.

.243 case length is actually a tad longer than the 7.62 NATO, slightly shorter overall length due to the MUCH lighter bullets.

243 in an assult rifle, what's the point ? Longer case, carry less ammo etc.

Plus what Swampy said about .243 barrel life.

I think we made a big mistake when we dumped our battle rifles and equiped everybody with assult rifles.

When things are up close and personal, the .223 gets the job done nicely.......so did the Thompson the the Grease Gun. When you have workin room and the other guys aren't standin up and wavin at you, the .30 cal in the hands of a rifleman gets the job done when the little fellers don't cut it..........been there.

I don't have direct experience with the .243 but have had and loved a .257 Roberts........but I would never chose the Roberts over either the 06 or 7.62 NATO for a war gun.

Sam, stubborn ol fart.
 
Back between the world wars, the U.S. Army planned to replace the M1903 Springfield with a 7mm semiauto rifle. Only the desire to be able to use existing stocks of .30-06 kept the M1 Garand from being issued in a smaller caliber.

After WWII, the Brits wanted NATO to standardize on a sub-.30 caliber cartridge but the USA insisted on a .30 -- and the 7.62 NATO was born.

So it seems that factors of logistics and politics have had as much to do with the absence of mid-bore battle rifles as anything else.
 
exerpt from:
http://communities.prodigy.net/sportsrec/gz-hague.html#308

During the 1930s, General Douglas MacArthur insisted that development of the new semi-automatic rifle which was to become the M1 Garand, proceed as a . 30 caliber, rather than the .260 or .280 for which the "experts" at that time were agitating:

"I am neither a firearms nor a ballistics expert, but I was a combat infantry officer in the Great War, and I absolutely know that the bullet from an infantry rifle has to be able to shoot through things."

This undoubtedly gave the .30'06 cartridge, in service with the Springfield '03A3 and the M1918A2 (BAR), a fresh lease on life.

Sam
 
Hmm... case length... I see the point about the case length. If your going to use .308 cases - why not use .308?
Okay - Granted.

What about other rifle calibers with the 5.56MM NATO case length? 6MM BR is a fun round... I've had the chance to fire some of that stuff many moons ago. Funky little fat bodied shell. Not as many rounds per mag... So - we are looking for something short and skinny. I dont know of anything off the top of my head - but I keep coming back to the 7.62X39MM...
Now correct me if I am wrong - I dont remember the exact sizes, but couldn't you load a 7.62 bullet on a 5.56MM case? Yeah - you can. .223 case is .378 and that russian bullet is more like .337 right? Wait - there is the .300 Whisper! The .300 Whisper is basically a really big heavy bullet loaded onto the .223 case to make suppression easier. Right? Okay - so what about a .300 Whisper loaded with lighter bullet and to higher pressures?
 
6mm SAW - "the best cartridge that never was"

The US Army has already spent the better part of a decade, thousands of man-hours, and millions of dollars developing a 6mm cartridge - arguably the ultimate small arm cartridge. It's sitting on the self ready to go but will probably never be adopted because of political and economic reasons. It's not the biggest, the fastest, or a magnum anything. It's a compromise of size, shape, weight, function, recoil, and energy. Perhaps the perfect compromise.

It's called the 6mm SAW - "the best cartridge that never was". It was developed in the early 70's and is officially known as the XM732 BALL. It was intended to be used with the (then experimental) Squad Automatic Weapon. SMALL ARMS OF THE WORLD, 12th Edition, by Ezell mentions the 6mm SAW briefly as it covers the development of the SAW machinegun in some detail.

The 6mm SAW was not derived from 5.56x45 or the 7.62x51 (or any other cartridge case for that matter), it's case dimensions are totally unique. According to CARTRIDGES OF THE WORLD, 8th Edition, by Barnes the OAL of a loaded round was 2.580". The case had a .410" head dia. and was 1.779" long. It was loaded with an extremely streamlined 105 gr bullet that moved out at 2520 fps from an 18" barrel, not that far behind cartridges like the .243 Winchester and 6mm Remington.

It wasn't just a pie-in-the-sky project. Development got pretty far, a lot of ammunition was even loaded in bulk at military arsenals. You might even turn one up at a big gun show if you scrounge around the cartridge collectors' tables. $5 a round last time I saw one.

One interesting facts about the 6mm SAW is it was the first cartridge to be designed by computer. The technique called "parametric design" was a complicated model of complex thermodynamic equations. The Army wasn't that impressed and once they figured out how to make tracers work in .223 caliber bullets they dropped the 6mm SAW. To bad in my opinion, the 6mm SAW had a lot going for it, and in civilian form the brass would have been the basis for many, many interesting cartridges that never will be. -- Kernel

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Excerpt from Guns Review International, February 1996 by Anthony Williams

"....... in a series of experiments conducted by British, American and (possibly) Russian agencies to discover the ideal military small arms calibre. In the late 1960s, the Royal Small Arms Factory at Enfield began a detailed theoretical analysis of the striking energy needed to disable soldiers with various levels of protection, and the ballistics required to deliver that energy at battle ranges for a number of different calibres. The conclusion was that the optimum calibre would lie between 6mm and 6.5mm, and an experimental 6.25mm cartridge (based on the abortive 7mm round) was developed which was claimed to have significant advantages over both the 5.56mm and 7.62mm calibres. Performance proved to be virtually equal to the 7.62mm at up to 600 metres, with recoil and ammunition weight much closer to those of the 5.56mm.

At the same time, the US Army realised the need for a light machine gun with a longer effective range (out to 800 metres) than the 5.56mm cartridge could provide but appreciably less weight than the 7.62mm M60 MG. Their research led to the development of the 6mm SAW (Squad Automatic Weapon) cartridge. A relatively heavy bullet combined with a moderate velocity were selected for the optimum long-range performance. In the event, weapons firing improved 5.56mm ammunition were selected instead, largely to avoid the supply problems created by the use of three small-arms calibres. More recently, it has emerged that Russian armament firms, who had earlier copied NATO in producing a small-calibre (5.45mm) cartridge, are now offering weapons in a new 6mm calibre."
 
Disclaimer: I shoot benchrest

I don't like the 6PPC cartridge as a military cartridge. I want RELIABILITY. That means a more tapered case - Go ahead and neck the .220 Russian up to 6mm, but don't change the body taper, etc... You won't have quite the powder capacity, but heck - much more reliability.

Personally, I like the idea of going with light 40 grainers in the .223, and adding in some folks carrying .308 rifles for longer distances...
 
An even LIGHTER .22?
What for? Ah... you musta seen The Mummy Returns and are concerned with Pygmy attacks. I dont know - I think the bast thing we could do would be to move to a bigger and heavier bullet.
If you want to go down to a smaller load - you might as well be shooting .22 Hornet.
 
Ha Ha Ha
Railguns are coming 15gr @ 15,000 ft/s
Just need some better batteries.

Seriously, by the time the military wakes up and switches to a 6mm round railguns will be here.
 
I think the Military is learning that Penetration is going to become more and more important in Military Conflicts. Especially since we are probable going to see more Body Armor used in War. We jumped up 7grs to the 62gr Steel core rounds and it seems that is a losing round for stopping power. In the next 5-10yrs I hope they realise that they need to pick a larger Caliber with Pentration and Knockdown. But They'll Probable come up with some new Rifle design which handles higher pressures with fancy light bullets.:rolleyes:
 
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