20 gauge stupidity

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20 gua & 28 gua

I was once given the advice shoot what is comfortable and practice as often as possible.

If someone finds a 20 gua or 28 gua more comfortable and practices more often than a 12 gua they are likely to shoot it better.

Remember, in this world, everyone except a gun grabber is entitled to an opinion!
 
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The 20ga is a fine load. It's all I use for quail. My wife shoots a 20ga Benelli M1 with both a SRM Terror .675 and a Briley X2 LM, loaded with Kent Tungsten 3" #3's for duck and geese. Inside it's limits the 20ga is DEADLY.

As far as the comments about the 10ga goes.
I wonder how many of the "experts have actually owned/shot/patterned one???
I own 12, 20 and 10ga shotguns. I duck hunt with both 20 and 12ga's. I shoot SC with the 12ga.
However...... I also go on around 60 hunts a year for geese, here, in SD, ND, TX ,and Canada. Say what you will but for Giant Canada's, Specks and Snows, I'll take a reloaded 10ga anyday of the week with it's shot density.
I also do on occasion guide for an Outfitter friend. I carry a shotgun only to bat cleanup on (if any) cripples. For this the 10ga is more than up to the task
And yes ALL shots whether I'm hunting by myself or with a group are over the dekes.

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Just to say. The shooting world would be better off if people would not thumb the're arrogant noses at others because of the equipment they use.
An example. I've seen so-called adults laugh openly at a kid because he was using an 870 Express. To me this is WAY beyond childish and foolishness. These so-called adults better known as Barney's or rubberheads would be kicked out of my blind in a heartbeat.
Anyway I'm off my soapbox.
 
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never mind that hunting pheasants with 12 gauge could be too easy?

I don't feel any emotion to drive out a beatiful road mountain with the late yamaha 1000 cc. four cilinders, the best of brake, frame and power.
I feel large perceptive emotion to drive out the same road with my motorcycle Guzzi 500cc. 1932 , change by hand, ridiculous brakes, rigid frame. Join the top of the road, I am satisfied, the bike has been able
to arrive, slowly and noisy, but won the challenge.

I don't feel any emotion hunting pheasants with setter and 12 gauge semiauto beretta, four shotshells, 5 ounces of lead. I kill them at 98%, perhaps 99%.
So I hunt pheasants with 20 gauge that obliges me to be more precise. I miss someone , the difficult generates emotion, satisfaction.
today it's not important the meat, but fun and I hunt for fun, next year I shall hunt with muzzleloaders;
I hope that no one would counsel sling...
ciao, franco
 
If it takes a real man to shoot a 12 gauge, what do you call a man who can shoot a prefict round of skeet with a 410? A realy talented man.
 
I seem to remember reading about a test that was done over 10 years ago that concluded almost everybody shot much better with a 20 ga. instead of a 12 ga. Anybody remember that?
 
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OK.

DevLcL, you wrote,
Try to picture this. A few guys are huddled together at a campfire talking about the day over a bottle of wiskey. The year is somewhere in the mid-1800's. Noticing a noise in the bushes they all get a little nervous. One of them grabs a 20GA!!! to investigate??????..... I THINK NOT.
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See if you can find someone who owns a 20 gauge shotgun who will agree you accompany you for a test. Find a place where you can hang a pumpkin or a gallon jug full of water by a string from a tree branch; be sure that you have a safe shooting area and nothing to be damaged beyond it.

Shoot the pumpkin from a distance that matches a typical distance for a shot fired in self-defense. Perhaps five yards, if you're simulating a long, indoor shot. You can do it again at ten, then fifteen yards. What about three yards? Wear old clothes. Take several pumpkins. Compare buckshot, bird shot and slugs.

Let us know if you change your mind about the effectiveness of the 20 gauge shotgun.
 
I see you a 'thing' for the 12 gauge

is the 12 gauge your mom or somwthing? it should not be the only caliber :(
wtf would you say somethink like that, all calibers have their place. I hop eyou only ccw a 44mag becuase that is what the old timers did in the 1800s I could just not imagine wild bill going tio investagate a situation with a 9mm or a 380.
I hope that you are consistant with big caliber religious beliefs :rolleyes: :cool: :barf: ;) :D
 
I also like the 20 gauge, its all I've ever shot, in SS H&R Model 51. Sweet and light. I was thinking about getting a pump gun or a double in 20 ga, but was thinking ppl would look down on me, being around 6'2 and 285 pounds, thinking i was a wimp for choosing a 20, but its all I've ever shot, and thats what I have ammo for, 20 gauge.
 
I love the 20 and the 12 but just can't for the life of me see a 3 1/2 12 gauge, dam how did we ever kill anything with a 2 3/4 inch.As far as this post what is %$$%# :)
 
20 gauge

Please, by all means, fill us in with your unlimited wisdom on all the other things you know absolutely nothing about but still pontificate.

Oh yea, try to check your spelling and punctuation before you post so only a few will know your level of education. I'm sure it rivals your experience.

A 12 gauge is preferable for those that cannot do the job with a 20 gauge.
 
The 410 is a abomination
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Wow, what bombast - you sir are a Cad!

I also carry a 410 into the fields - stout load of lead # 5 shot - not too bad on my shoulder.... ;)

Quail & pheasants are reactions - ducks are ballistics.

12-34hom.
 
I have to agree with wudjalike2no ..the 12 and 10 gauge as well as the 8 bore are for little girls...If you are a REAL MAN then the only shotgun you will shoot is the Russian 4 gauge DROZD...anyone who shoots anything less than a 4 gauge is definatly lacking a set of testicles..
 
Well, gee, I guess all those squirrels, rabbits, birds, & even deer we bagged with our 20 ga shotguns just died of fright. Probably confused the noise with a big, he-man real-shotgun 12 or 10 ga! :rolleyes:

I think the 12 is great for waterfowl, defense & some other particular uses. But for most of my shotgun usage for most of my life, the 20 ga has served just fine. That includes the old Foster-type 20 ga slugs for deer, just as far as you can place your shot accurately!
 
IMO there's no difference between 20 gauge and 12 gauge. The same weight at the same speed gives the same recoil. That's it. the difference is 12 gauge is cheaper to shoot and 20 gauge has barrels with less diameter.

20 gauge could very well recoil more than 12 gauge if it weights less..

12 gauge has the advantage to use heavier loads with more recoil that aren't available in 20 gauge, agreed. But on top of that, if you go even farther, 12/76 or 12/89, you get only disadvantages. I have 12/76 and use only 12/70 so cleaning is more complicated as with 12/70 guns.

Why not just buy 12 gauge for practicability and 20 gauge if a nice gun comes your way? Life can be so easy.
 
I think all shotgun guages have their place. I enjoy shooting a .410 bore just as much as a 20 ga or a 12 ga. In fact, I think the little .410 bore is slightly more fun that the others to shoot. Now if I could just find one of those nickel-plated .410 side-by-side shotguns like a saw years back, man it was sweet.
 
Bah! 12 gauges are for pansy, girly men! 4 bores are the manly weapons! Anything less is wimpy and sissy and won't even kill a femmie little fly!
 
I killed a 22 pound gobbler with a 20 gauge shotgun. Why did I have a 20 gauge if I knew I had a chance at such a big bird? He got that big by living at the bottom of a big rough canyon, and if I was going to come back up with that bird, I wanted something lighter to lug up on the other shoulder. All I needed was something to put six or seven #4 pellets into the gobbler's head at 15 yards, because I knew exactly where that bird was going to die that day, if he was going to at all by my hand.

A 20 gauge can always be made lighter than a 12 gauge, just as a 12 gauge shell can always be made more lethal than a 20 gauge. Anything done to one can be copied on the other, and bigger bigger diameter shells need bigger diameter barrels, and they will way more.

If you don't need the added lethality of a 12 gauge, then why take the added weight?

BTW, less I be branded as a 'girlie man' for using a 20 gauge, I have shot trap with a 10 gauge before, though I used 2 7/8" shells. (I probably should have kept those for cartridge trading.)
 
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