15,000 9mm rounds gone in minute.

Status
Not open for further replies.
Was in Wal-mart today and they have a sign "no more that 6 box's per day" was glad to see it. They all should do the same and stop the hoarders:)
 
No, how about we just see some shelves stacked plentifully with ammo. Don't blame the individual shooter, By God this is America. An individual should be able to do/buy what an individual wants to do.
 
I don't have a big problem with regular shooters buying ahead. Personally I am a small time shooter. Probably use about 500 or so rounds of 9mm and a hundred or so rounds of .223 a year. Right now I have about 2 boxes of Golden Sabers, half a box of WWB 9mm and a box of Remington UMC .223, and generally buy enough ammo so I will have some available when I practice. Just would like to see some on the shelf. My shooting buddy and I usually pick ammo up for each other if we manage to find it on the shelf somewhere. The thing that really infuriates me is seeing Winchester White Boxes in any caliber on Gunbroker in any quantity for double the price--and people willing to pay the price. In my area the 6 box limit per customer wouldn't have any effect on people, cause the couple Wal-mart employees I have talked with said they generally can only get 2 or so boxes of each popular handgun caliber at a time.
 
Our Wallyworld also has a six "box" per customer/day limit. We've been shooting about 100 rounds/wk; me -.40 S&W and my son-in-law - 9mm. The gal at the gun counter has gotten to know us and will nod as I walk by if she has anything. Was walking by two days ago and she waves me over and says, "Hang on just a minute." She finised ringing out another customer and takes two boxes of .40 Blazer out from under the counter. She told me that she was holding them for a LEO, but he never showed up. So, of course, I bought them.

They have been getting in more shipments in the last few weeks than they've had in the last three months so things might be looking up.

Went to Academy the same day and they had a few boxes of 9mm. They also had 250 rnd "value packs" of .40 for $75. I almost bought one, but I had enough to last me for this weekend. Maybe next time, but things may be starting to look up a bit.
 
Patience people....

I know its an old story, but all things do come to an end. If things keep up going poorly in some areas, lots of this hoarded ammo will come on the market, some sooner, some later. And, if we don't agree to pay hyper inflated prices just to get it, the price will come down.

But please, don't bash the guys who are just trying to be capitalists, after all, isn't that one of the things that makes America great?:confused:

Would you rather see them require an end user certificate for say, 1,000rnds or more? What a lovely paperwork bonus for the antis that would be!

end user certificate - some form of legal document (contract) stating that the purchaser is the end user of the product. In other words, if you bought 10 cases of 9mm (for example) you would have to sign a legal contract stating that the ammo would not be resold, traded, or given away.

Is that what you want?

Not me!

And I'm not one of the guys doing the "hoarding". I bought 6 boxes of factory ammo in the last 5 years! But since I do reload for more than 25 rifle and handgun calibers, I do use a fair amount of components. Fortunately, I have a bit of a stock alreadly laid in, and have had for decades.
 
I hoard ammo
Click to expand...

Good to see some people being honest.

I guess I too hoard ammo. Not that I don't shoot, because I do, quite often. I "hoard" ammo so I don't have to worry about not being able to find any the next time I want to go dump a bunch down range.
 
I'm pretty sure my local gun store buys the 380 from the Walmart down the street and resells it at twice the cost. I don't buy from them.

Ben
 
Meh, what goes around comes around. The guys that buy 20,000 rounds at a time expecting to double their money in THIS market are going to cry when they find people are getting sick of paying it. They'll probably be selling it at a loss in another year. I used to buy 7.62 NATO at 20 cents a round or under. Never bought a lot of it, but probably still have a tad under 1000 rounds. Can't see paying the prices these days. Same with the 5.56 NATO, though I payed 20 cents for that also, it used to be a nickel a round! I don't have as much of that, but for the same reason; I wasn't quick enough to buy a lot of it before the price skyrocketed. Now at a dollar a round or close to it, they can keep it. For most of my guns, if I have at least 100 rounds on hand, I'm happy.
 
my local walmart has put a limit of 6 boxes (combined) on handgun and rifle ammo per customer per day (I thought what a crock since they never seem to have anything since the scare started)...I was shocked that they actuall had some stuff in 9mm...I was only allowed to get 6 boxes last night; I just hope they have some tomorrow morning when i stop by before going to my meeting
 
one of my wally world guys said they were limiting everyone (wal-marters included) to 6 boxes hoping to help people get their hands on ammo....Needless to say I still can't get any...and I have 3 WM's within 20 minutes.
 
My local walmart is also putting the stop on people buying everything in one trip.

I think they sold me a limit of 10 boxes of blazer last time it was in. I was in for something else and just got lucky.
 
44 amp; I can respect a person's RIGHT to buy all the ammo they want. This is America. No problem. But I don't have to respect the PERSON. There's really only 4 types of buyers here.

1. The person who barely ever shoots the 1 or 2 guns they have. MAYBE 1 time a years. They aren't hoarding thousands up thousands of rounds. They might have only bought 5-10 boxes. Problem is; this is the majority of the buyers out there. And when you multiply this by a few million (Probably around 10-20,000,000 people; the industry isn't set up for that much demand all at one time.

2. The regular shooter. Someone who shoots at least once a month. They normally keep enough ammo to be a good survival cache and for self defense. They continually buy a few boxes here and there to shoot with. Either to replenish their stock or just to shoot that day. This group is definitely buying a lot more than normal. Do they need the amount they are buying? Probably not. They probably have enough to still go out shooting on their regular basis for probably 6months to a year. But they are panicked and worried. So they buy a lot more than normal. This isn't a problem in my mind. I also don't think they are the biggest problem. (I still think it's the first group above).

3. Then you have your mega shooters who are out most weekends or whenever they get a chance. Many of these also or mainly reload. They are buying ammo as well as all the primers, powder, etc... they can find. Obviously the first group isn't buying primers and powder. The 2nd group might a little. But the 3rd group is a lot more into it. When you shoot that much, you tend to reload. But, because the are unsure; instead of buying every 3-4 months; they are buying years worth of supplies as well as ammo. I have mixed emotions about these. I understand them wanting to ensure they can continue with their hobby/sport. And with easily able to go through 500 round in one trip to the range; they could be going through 2 cases of ammo a month. At the same time; they must be willing to pay some of the very high and stupid prices. In which case I don't really understand or respect their decision. Anyone willing to pay $49 for a box of 50 handgun rounds is paranoid.

4. Then you've got the gougers. These aren't capitalists. These are scum bags. These are the ones who walk into walmart at 6:30am and literally would buy everything on the shelf. Then go to a gun show or gunbroker and sell it all at 2-3 times the price. No; I don't respect these people and I prefer we don't even talk about them. A) They are scum. B) They are only scum because there is some idiot out there willing to pay these stupid prices. And you can't talk about scum unless you're willing to talk about idiots.

Yea, my plinking make have gone down a little. No big deal. This whole thing hasn't affected my defense or survival ammo. And it never will. It's not like you need a lot of ammo for defense or survival. Unless you think the world is coming to an end and you're buying all the ammo as trading material.
 
I used to by from walmart by the case load. I was shooting anywhere from 200-500 rounds a month in .45. I have yet to see any pistol ammo in any of the wal marts here in the last 5 months :mad:

We can't even get rounds for qualifications
 
Could we have a little cheese with this wine?

I'm sorry guys, I don’t mean to offend but I get tired of hearing this.:o
Any one with half a brain 6 months ago could see how the election was going and the anti gunners that we,,,, WE were up against. You could have done the same thing that I did.
10,000 of 45 ACP at $12 a box of 50 and the same number of 9mm for $8.
This was when Dicks sporting goods store had them on sale and by the truck load. I tried to tell my friends but they looked at me like I was some kind of nut,,, now they want to know if I want to sell any of it.
I will shoot that much in the next couple of years and I also purchased enough to reload that several times.
We are not the cause of the ammo shortage,,, I am not the reason for the ammo shortage,,, blame the real culprits, the people that are now in power in Washington,,, that is the group that has scared so many people and the reason that gun sales have gone over the top.
Not those of us that had some foresight.
So in ending that wine has a nice nose,,,, but I prefer Scotch.:rolleyes:
 
christcorp 44 amp;


I can respect a person's RIGHT to buy all the ammo they want. This is America. No problem. But I don't have to respect the PERSON. There's really only 4 types of buyers here.

1. The person who barely ever shoots the 1 or 2 guns they have. MAYBE 1 time a years. They aren't hoarding thousands up thousands of rounds. They might have only bought 5-10 boxes. Problem is; this is the majority of the buyers out there. And when you multiply this by a few million (Probably around 10-20,000,000 people; the industry isn't set up for that much demand all at one time.

2. The regular shooter. Someone who shoots at least once a month. They normally keep enough ammo to be a good survival cache and for self defense. They continually buy a few boxes here and there to shoot with. Either to replenish their stock or just to shoot that day. This group is definitely buying a lot more than normal. Do they need the amount they are buying? Probably not. They probably have enough to still go out shooting on their regular basis for probably 6months to a year. But they are panicked and worried. So they buy a lot more than normal. This isn't a problem in my mind. I also don't think they are the biggest problem. (I still think it's the first group above).

3. Then you have your mega shooters who are out most weekends or whenever they get a chance. Many of these also or mainly reload. They are buying ammo as well as all the primers, powder, etc... they can find. Obviously the first group isn't buying primers and powder. The 2nd group might a little. But the 3rd group is a lot more into it. When you shoot that much, you tend to reload. But, because the are unsure; instead of buying every 3-4 months; they are buying years worth of supplies as well as ammo. I have mixed emotions about these. I understand them wanting to ensure they can continue with their hobby/sport. And with easily able to go through 500 round in one trip to the range; they could be going through 2 cases of ammo a month. At the same time; they must be willing to pay some of the very high and stupid prices. In which case I don't really understand or respect their decision. Anyone willing to pay $49 for a box of 50 handgun rounds is paranoid.

4. Then you've got the gougers. These aren't capitalists. These are scum bags. These are the ones who walk into walmart at 6:30am and literally would buy everything on the shelf. Then go to a gun show or gunbroker and sell it all at 2-3 times the price. No; I don't respect these people and I prefer we don't even talk about them. A) They are scum. B) They are only scum because there is some idiot out there willing to pay these stupid prices. And you can't talk about scum unless you're willing to talk about idiots.

Yea, my plinking make have gone down a little. No big deal. This whole thing hasn't affected my defense or survival ammo. And it never will. It's not like you need a lot of ammo for defense or survival. Unless you think the world is coming to an end and you're buying all the ammo as trading material.
Click to expand...
First, I love all the time and effort you put into making your point! It was rather enjoyment of a different point of view, and your commitments to make a greater point!

TBS, I guess I fit in #2, but not completely.

Next drink is on me in Vegas.

PS: the ammo's on you, at least your own, when we we go shooting out here in Vegas. You buy the Taco's, I'll drive the car.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top