Zero Tolerance the Nazi Mentality

I am physically ill...

The representation of the ABILITY to do harm is now being construed as DOING harm.

Onecoyote, I wonder: should we also restrict high school athletes from getting too muscular? I mean, gawd knows, NO ONE needs to be able to bench 300+ lbs! That's just ridiculous!

Reaping what we sow also is applicable to accepting that children will someday be adults, and that carefully allowing them to take on personal responsiblilities in small, supervised doses is part of conditioning children to grow into adulthood. Otherwise, we seem to hatch crops of children who are dependent upon others for their welfare throughout their lives.

--L.P.
 
What was the teacher doing sniffing around in the kids pack, anyway?

Oh, I'm gonna have so much fun in about 4 1/2 years, when my son is old enough for school. Assuming he goes to a public school (God willing, my wife and I will be able to home school).

He will be taught that if someone hits him, HIT THEM BACK! Don't let some bully push you around. Don't be a victim.

He will be taught that it is perfectly ok to question things.

He will be taught that it is ok call it like it is.

Yeah, he'll get into trouble. But I'll back him up 10000%, and I will NOT give an inch.
 
iso1,

From an old, scarred parent (whose two girls graduated in 1995), this
suggestion:

Have lots of time and money for legal battles .... ;)

We live in Texas, where things are rational, right?

If my daughter stayed home from school because she was ill, I could write an
excuse for her and it would be accepted as a legal absence.

If I took my daughter to a doctor because she was ill, the school would not
accept an excuse from the parent. The excuse had to be written legibly and
signed by a doctor.

I took my daughter to the doctor and wrote the school an excuse. They
called it, "an illegal absence".

I courteously explained ... to no avail.

The “incident” was repeated a total of three times. The school then sent me
a lengthy registered letter (copy to the County Sheriff) that one more such
incident and Child Protective Services could take my child from me on the
grounds I was encouraging truancy.

This from the same teachers and administrators who bemoan the "lack of
parental involvement."

Well, by God, they got involvement!

The Sheriff knows me from my volunteer work in EMS and my support of his
campaign for Sheriff. (hint! hint!) He called to ask, "What on earth is going
on, Dennis?"

I explained it all in four-part harmony and warned him my daughter had
more appointments with the doctor (on-going medical treatment) and I was
going to push this all the way to the Supreme Court!! (I used to be a
hothead... :rolleyes: )

Sheriff said state law required him to arrest me if I pushed it. I said, "Great!
No problem between us, Bob!”

A former teacher (for whom I used to teach First Aid and CPR) retired early to
run her bail bond business full-time. I told her my tale and she became
irate! (Turns out the left-wingers drove her to an early retirement.)

We agreed that if I was arrested, she would have bail for me in hand - no
charge! Her husband, a retired criminal prosecutor would represent me
pro-bono!

I was loaded for bear! Ready for a "test case". Sue the school district for
enough money that my entire family could retire and live off our investments.

Someone squealed to the school. (Accursed snitch!) The school accepted my
excuses by "making an exception" and calling the doctor's office for
confirmation. To rub salt into the open wound, they said they did it as a
“favor” to me because I once had been so polite and had explained the
“truancy”.

I was ticked!

All that anger! All that preparation! Wasted!

Nothing really accomplished because they continued the same stupid,
insulting (expletives deleted) policy with other parents.

"Parent involvement" is a lie. They want parent subservience.
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I’ve offered to homeschool my grandchildren, but I think my kids might be
afraid of what the grandkids would learn. ;)

(... and you clean the bore until it is bright and shiny, then apply just a little
bit of oil ... )

(Never mind what Barney says, repeat after me,
“A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state.......”)
 
Cool, Really Cool

Dennis quote:
"I’ve offered to homeschool my grandchildren, but I think my kids might be afraid of what the grandkids would learn.
... and you clean the bore until it is bright and shiny, then apply just a little bit of oil ... )
(Never mind what Barney says, repeat after me, “A well-regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state.......”)

Dennis, I think you would make a GREAT teacher. :D
 
Sheriff said state law required him to arrest me if I pushed it.
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Sorry Dennis but your friend needs to go back to school and learn the word "NO". Obviously he'd arrest you for anything if they told him to. That attitude is unacceptable. I cannot understand how these people legitimize this type of crap in their own minds, the guys your freaking friend and he knows you arn't causing any harm but he'd still arrest you, man thats low.
 
For a Peace Officer, failure to arrest for a crime that occurs within his view, or failure to arrest for a crime that he has certain knowledge of, is a crime, for which the Peace Officer may be arrested.

And the crime is sufficiently high enough that the Sheriff would immediately be removed from office, and stripped of his Peace Officer license.

LawDog
 
for which the Peace Officer may be arrested.
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It is absolutely crazy that somehow someone will be arrested whether it's the officer or the citizen. The legiscritters that come up with this crap deserve to be arrested. Seems like they are intent on arresting everyone and their sister if anyone dares disobey. Our country is in one sad state of affairs. Words do not describe adequetly my disgust with this entire situation. Our "leaders" have no problems pitting cops against citizens, brother against brother and father against son, I forgot to mention tearing families apart, robbing us, enslaving us, spying on us, killing us etc etc etc. &%$# them !
 
I'm not that old, (only 40), which may be really old to some, but when we were in school, (small town in the Rocky Mountains), we all carried the folding Buck's, Old Timer knives on our belts and that was high school. In previous years some kids would bring their hunting rifles for show and tell. The principal was always curious what kind of cool knife you had. Probably wondered how we had the money for such nice hardware.

Of course, this was a time that you did'nt need to lock your locker either. Nobody had a desire to steal your stuff. It is all changed now though.
 
This story is really funny-sad, to my thinking.

You see, back in my high school days (Long Beach, Ca) I was with the Jr. ROTC. We not only did close order drill with real M1's, but we had a pistol & rifle range down in the basement of the school theatre! Granted this was in the 60's, but still...to think of what that place has become!

Glad that I live Idaho. Perhaps the last refuge of patriotic America. (we're still trying to find a way to prosecute the feds for Ruby Ridge!)

Al.
 
Scud,

My bad. The story’s so long....

When the law gives the officer no choice but to arrest someone, he still has
some discretionary powers.

If you’ve been around here for years, are well-known with a good reputation,
and the “offense” in question is considered trivial (or morally wrong), they
frequently handle the case by phone. The Deputy calls, tells you about the
problem, gets your side of the story, and (if everything seems to be
“reasonable”) he tells you to come by the Sheriff’s office by, oh, say,
tomorrow at noon - or they give you an appointment to be arrested. :)

They usually caution you with some comment, “Now don’t be late, okay?
Don’t make us come out there after you.” (Sage advice, I’d say! ;) )

That way when you show up, they arrest you and immediately take you to
the Justice of the Peace to be magistrated so you can be cut loose on your
own recognizance or have bail already arranged to pay right then.

You just gotta be careful not to fail your “attitude check”. :D

He was doing me a favor, honest. ;)

BTW, I have the suspicion that the Sheriff had a prayer meeting with the
school district lawyer about this. Why else would those pedants so suddenly
and unexpectedly make “an exception” just for little ole me - someone who
had pulled their chain rather defiantly? Remember, the law actually was on
their side - I was just too darned “Irish” to comply! :D

I shudder to think what could have happened in the city - San Antonio!!
:eek:
 
Thanks Dennis, That makes me feel a little better. Laws are still pretty screwy, I wish it were not this way.
 
Correia,

Yeah! I've calmed down a LOT, you little twerp!
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Scud,

The above comment is a joke. You and I could play tennis in Correia's shadow! ;)
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Correia,

You knew it was a joke,...right?....Right?....Please???
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SCUD! Quick! Lemme borrow your copy of the Lord's Prayer; tell my family I love them; my favorite flowers are lilies; and they know how to split up my gun collection!!! :eek: :eek:
 
I can't believe you people!!

Nothing wrong? Are you all insane? It's obvious the kid with the shotgun doesn't have a proper cheek weld. :D

And, I know all about firecrackers and suspension. Don't ask how... :( :D
 
I'm gonna throw a thought out here. I'm not gonna try to be Rambo or a super soldier but I did spend some time learning some unusual stuff that might have saved me under the right(or wrong) conditions . I'm sure I number among many of you that went to these schools . Remember how to break someones neck with a newspaper ? If anything that could POSSIBLY be a weapon is treated as a weapon then newspapers should not be allowed in schools .It wasn't hard to make this weapon and could be done in just a few seconds . I would even be willing to demonstrate this for the School Board if they want to see it .I'm sure there are others here that would also be willing to show these people that the worst weapon is the thought that precedes the act .
By the way , I never had to do it . Just broke the chunk of wood in school so SGT. Cretin knew I paid attention . The safety pin was a good one also .
Damn! The brutality that we must show in order to stay civilized .
 
“... the worst weapon is the thought that precedes the act.”
Wow... How could anyone explain the concept any clearer than that?
Thanks, Paratrooper.
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“Remember how to break someones neck with a newspaper?”
No, I never learned that skill.
Sadly, I have seen lives ruined with a pen.
 
Back in 1972 in England (elementary school) i brought a knife to school for an outing in the woods. I was showing my knife to another kid, and he somehow got the wrong idea, and ran off to tell. The teacher then told me "I will let you keep the knife because it was intended for the outing, and you did not intend to harm anybody. Please just don't bring it to school again".
 
Dennis-If you can possibly convince your children to let you homeschool your grandchildren, do it. I have friends that homeschool their grandchildren. It's really cool. If you have any questions-ask.

We homeschool because of our experience with the government schools. (Public and Private). My beef is NOT with teachers. Many do their best. My beef is with the system. It sucks.

Daemon- "Children go to school to learn"
I would say you haven't been to a government school lately. That may be why the parents send them, but that isn't what they do there. My mother works for the public schools and she says that they have so many federal requirements, that actual learning time is drastically reduced from what it used to be. And she is not a teacher. Some of my friends who DO teach have said that if they get a full day of total academic time they consider that a great day. Check it out at your local school. Under the freedom of information act find out how many non-academic things are going on. Get the lesson plans for your child. Ask if you can sit in on a day of school (Administration may not let you, but ask anyway.) Review all of the school books your child has. If the child isn't allowed to bring certain school books home, go to the school and ask to see it. If the administration won't show it to you, ask why.
 
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