I took my daughter out with my old starter gun. Youth model 870 wingmaster in 20ga. Its a little big and to front heavy for her. With a little help from me she shot the 3/4oz low brass but didnt want to shoot again. She is determined to hunt but this gun is not going to work for her. I am considering picking up one of the cheap rossi single shot .410's. Has anyone trained their kid with one? Is the recoil on the .410 that much less than a 3/4oz 20ga? I hate to spend money on guns that will get left to the side and not used after a year or 2. I would hate even more to drop money on a semi auto thats cut down. My boys are grown and off to college so my little girl is my new hunting partner so long as we can get a shotgun that she can comfortably use. The other option is to make her follow me around for another year or 2 and only give her range time with the rimfire.