Your top DEFENSE shotgun: Rem 870, Rem 11/87, Win 1300Defender, Benelli M1???

POLL: Vote for the best 18" 12 ga. Defense Shotgun

  • Remington 870 Police

    Votes: 57 37.3%
  • Winchester 1300 Defender

    Votes: 19 12.4%
  • Remington 11/87

    Votes: 10 6.5%
  • Benelli M1 Tactical

    Votes: 29 19.0%
  • Beretta

    Votes: 4 2.6%
  • Mossberg

    Votes: 34 22.2%

  • Total voters
    153

ZWolfgang

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I know this won't be easy, but I'd really like to hear what ya'll have to say about picking one of the following shotguns for defense purposes. All are with 18" barrel. All are in 12 gauge. Price is not a factor.

PUMP:
Remington 870 Police
Winchester 1300 Defender

SEMI-AUTO:
Remington 11/87P
Benelli M1 Tactical

What are your top two choices and why?
 
I voted for the 870 of course, but EVERY shotgun named is a fine choice for Defense.

The crucial factors have nothing to do with brand.

A trained, cool hand can pick up any of these and be abso-%^&*lutely deadly with it.
 
Unfortunately you left out the new Winchester Super X2 Practical. If it is as solid as its parent gun it will be superb for this application.
Rich
 
Have 5 shotguns. Win. 1300 defender is my go to gun. #2 if I had to buy another would be an 870 done by scattergun tech. Like the Benelli also.$$$$




Litlman.....................
 
Another vote for the Win 1300 Defender. It has a terrific Action smooth as silk and non binding. It is kept loaded in the corner of my bedroom:D
 
I own (and voted for) the 870. I've trained with it. I'm confident in it. I'm good with it.

I have had the chance to shoot the Benilli, an incredible gun. If you are looking to buy and price is not a factor get one by all means.

But I have to agree with the other posts, all are good guns. Personal preference the only real issue here.
 
I have a Benelli M1 Super 90 Tactical that I really feel comfortable with.

It has a pistol grip attached as well as the shoulder stock and ghost ring sights.

Feel it is a very controllable weapon when firing several rounds quickly and have never had a problems with it since purchased about 8 years ago. It holds a total of 8 rounds.

Of course as many have pointed out, price is the one downside. I paid about $900. But like everything else.......:)
 
If I could have two from the four you mentioned,I`d take:
pump-Remington 870 Police.
semi--Benelli M1 S90 Tactical.

Why ?I like the 870 for its steel receiver and many accesories,
and I like the Benelli for its simple construction and high
capacity.
The 11-87 seems to have problems with reliability.

If only one of the four,I`d go with the Benelli
 
I own 2 Winchester 1300 Defenders. Absolutely the best in my book. I have one with the wood stock (named that one "Full House") and one with the synthetic (named that one "Pair of Treys"). I really, really like the Tru-Glo sight on the synthetic stocked one, so I'm going to put a Tru-Glo on Full House also (it currently has a brass bead.) But the Tru-Glo for Full House will be the red one. Pair of Treys has a green Tru-Glo.

What I love about Defenders is the speed and silky smoothness of the action. FAST!! Boy, oh, boy, is it fast! The shotgun itself fits me perfectly. And it already comes with extended magazine. No dickering around with it to be done. It disassembles for cleaning easy. I just plain love it! That's why I have two. Who knows? I might buy more!
 
Caution, Kevan, pump guns are addicting(G)...

Saw a 1300 trap model a coupla weeks ago. Kinda pretty,heh,heh,heh.....
 
As others have said here and elsewhere, between the 870, Win 1300 Defender, Benelli M1, Mossberg... they're all great shotguns... each fully capable of doing the job.. pretty much comes down to user preference.
I went looking to buy an 870 or 1300 Defender today and after checking them all out, I preferred and came home with a Mossberg 18.5" Persuader.... really slick action, felt great, looked great and I've heard nothing but good things about them. I like the tang safety and easy to access pump release lever. I bought the Tru-Glo sight to put on it also. The great price was just a bonus on top of what's a very nice shotgun. I have a friend who has had one for years and has probably put a couple of thousand shells through it without one failure to fire or jam of any kind... nice record!

Perhaps one day I'll add a Winchester 1300 Marine Defender and a Benelli M1 Tactical as well, but this Mossberg is a keeper... kind of like a Toyota... good quality without any pretense or frills.

My second choice would have been the Winchester 1300 Defender. I like it's one piece long magazine... (no extensions which could, ever so possibly, create a problem at some point.) The aluminum receiver on the Winchester Defender didn't bother me, but if the gun crashed into a rock or something, a steel receiver would undoubedtly take more of a beating.

Interesting that the salesman, who has sold a ton of all these brands, said he's seen a number of "broken" Remington 870's come back to the store. They sell a lot of them, but also see quite a few problems with them. I'm sure it's a great shotgun, though. But he feels that the 870 quality, which was once stellar, has been slipping lately.
 
Hmmm,it's running about what my expectations were. About a third of the respondents prefer the 870, with the Mossiephiles in second place. No surprises there. I'm a little surprised there's no Ithaca fans speaking up yet.

Don, older 870s are great shotguns, new ones are good shotguns. The buttonmen at Big Green are definitely asleep at the switch. The good news is that with 8 million 870s out there, there's lots of used ones up for sale now and then.

Also, I'm sure that many of the 870 respondents on this thread were voting for the 870 and not the Police model per se.

Any short bbled, reliable US made pump gun is an awesomely effective weapon. The 870 is but one of the best...
 
Hey guys... I just noticed something about my new Mossberg 500A, the plastic safety switch is incredibly stiff... requiring a considerable amount of effort to switch it... seems like it should be a lot easier to move. Should I just take the gun to any local 'smith and have the metal safety installed and will that process help the stiffness of the switch? I'd just return it to the store, and get one with an easier switch, but if I'm going to replace the plastic one with a metal one, perhaps I should just visit a 'smith. Any thoughts guys?
 
Work it to and fro a hundred times, either it'll smooth up or fall off. If the last, replace it with the metal one. If the former, replace it when it does(G)...

Seriously, break it in a bit, then see how things are.
 
Hmmm... no Remington 1100? No 1148? No Auto 5? No Win M12?


Having shot a couple of tactical shotgun matches, I've come to some practical conclusions--

-Order of arms is everything. Practice your reloads. (Which are virtually the same with all the above.)

-Follow up shots are important. Do what you can to speed them up.

-Shortshucking stops the shooting. Misfeeds, though rare, do not.

Finally: (don't get up in arms-- this is just what I've personally witnessed among competitors) Good men with quality autos are noticeably faster than good men with quality pumps. Period.

Until I shot some shotgun matches, I used to hold that a well-trained man with an 870 was as fast as an equal man with an auto gun. I am now have to give the clear edge to the auto guns. That said, I still love good pumps, and regularly carry one.

But my home defense gun is a Remington 1100. I'd love to have the Benelli.
 
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