Your opinion on these for SD/HD...

At living room distances, pretty much all shotgun rounds will either still be in the wad, or barely starting to shed the wad...

However, the energy imparted will be based on those small pellets, not the load as one mass, therefore the energy dump will be much less than using the same weight load with bigger pellets.

As to the comments about 75 yards away.......that is not SD distances, and if you TRULY think you'll need a gun for that range, a rifle would be the norm. I agree, though, that fantasy/video game land is where that thinking belongs
 
Birdshot is for birds thats why its called birshot. Buckshot is for the people trying to hurt you or your family. I wouldnt go lower than #1Buck but would stick to 12 pellet 00Buck 2 3/4 as my go to rounds.
 
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Let this break all birdshot myths, both for wall penetration and tissue damage.

Guys, birdshot is no joke real real close, we're talking under ten yards. Yes, it could kill someone. But there's also the chance that it won't kill the person.

Now, seeing as either birdshot or buck will penetrate a wall, I prefer 00 buck for inside shots, or outdoor shots 25yds and under. I live on fifty acres, so as Roscoe stated, there's a very real chance of me taking some rounds from distances greater than 25 yards from outdoors.

If that were to happen, I'm not going to run back to the closet, change weapons, restock my pockets with ammo, and try to re-acquire the target, all without getting popped myself.

Instead of that nonsense, I'm going to duck back, load up some slugs, and tag the perp. Were this a residential setting, I'd probably still do the same, because lethal force is authorized in self defense OR defense of human life.

Howerever, I ain't dumb enough to pop off some slugs into little kristinas's house because A bad guy is shooting from their garden. Tactics, gentleman, tactics.

Situation dictates, right?

And how about common effing sense.
 
OK...so once again...it's really simple: BIRDSHOT FOR BIRDIES AND BUCKSHOT FOR SELF DEFENSE. Personally, I don't really care too much what y'all use...but if you want MAXIMUM effect, use buckshot (or slugs if the situation dictates).
 
words of wisdom to live by: bird shot is for birds, buckshot is for 2-legged preditors.

but if you prefer birdshot for the 'safety' factor ... go for it. Just hope that the perp is close by and you don't miss with the first shot.
 
Did VP Cheney have a hunting accident while hunting birds? The poor b@$t@rd hit survived a shot to the head and chest with birdshot (not sure the #). Granted it was at 30yrds but the victim was 78yrs old and didn't lose consciousness.

They were grouse hunting, so probably shot size 7 1/2 to 8. And he was using a 28-gauge, if I remember correctly.

You were right to point this out, but there's a big difference between what birdshot will do at 30 yards vs. 10 feet.

I still agree though, birdshot is best left for the birds.
 
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