You gotta be jerkin my chain

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by REast:

Ron Brown did threaten to expose Clinton. That is not conjecture that is fact. Dozens of people have accused Clinton of crimes from rape to murder. To believe he is an innocent lamb is ridiculous.
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East,

Please give me a SINGLE indication of where I have ever said that Bill Clinton is an "innocent lamb."

Mike Espy, the former Secretary of Agriculture, has also made comments about having dirt on Clinton. Espy survived his trial and is now working in private business.

The former Transportation Secretary, Pena(?) is in a similar position. Yet he continues to walk the earth.



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We are starting to beat a dead horse I believe. I never said that it is a gun shot wound. I speculated that it might be. I sent the pic to a gentleman who has decades of law enforcement and military experience. He said that it could very possibly be a gunshot wound. The famous pathologist Cyril Wecht made the same statement. An autopsy was called for but was not allowed. Why? To say it is paranoid to suspect Clinton of criminal acts is not justifiable. He faces being disbarred now for one of them. Anyone who strives to take away a constitutional right is a criminal in my book.
You never said Clinton was an innocent lamb. But your apparent protection of him lead me to believe you might feel that way. My apologies.
 
He may have been half dead to begin after the crash. The bullet just made sure. Does not the heart have to be pumping to cause the blood to flow. If he was almost dead anyway it would not be working to well, not much blood. If it would have been a FMJ bullet it may not have caused much trama to the surrounding tissue.

Just wanted to add my thought. :)

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B9mm,

You do bring up a good point.

If Brown were "half dead" and fading fast, it is likely that his systems would be shutting down, and that his blood pressure would be dropping dramatically.

That said, however, when the body begins to loose function, blood flow to the peripheral organs is sucessively cut off, and blood flow to the brain, and blood pressure IN the brain, increases.

Now let's speculate that moments before the supposed "bullet" was fired that Brown died.

Pressure in the brain would begin dropping rapidly, but would take several seconds to reach 00/00.

Finally, if the shot were fired in conditions of near death, or after death, the brain would not be able to exude back to the condition in which the photograph shows.

The brain, as has been said, is a gelationous organ, but it is NOT an elastic organ.

With all respect to Dr. Wecht, and to East's doctor friend, I again call attention to the word "CONSISTENT."

Consistent in no way means "IS."

Consisten means that an object, SOME object, penetrated Brown's skull in the manner that a bullet can.

Monday AM I'll be forwarding those photographs to several of my friends who are physicians.

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
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All right, let's settle this once and for all!

East, go get some shovels.

I'll get a big tarp and a chainsaw.

B9mm, you get some beer.

We need three more diggers.

Who's up for a road trip? :)

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Beware the man with the S&W .357 Mag.
Chances are he knows how to use it.
 
Got the beer, where are we going? Maybe we should rent a backhoe when we get there.

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"Defiance"
And yet...it moves
(Galileo Galilie)

"Spay or Nuter your Socialist Pets"
 
Lets go check JFK while we are at it.
When Clinton leaves office I will drink the beer then. They should have a huge party to celebrate that long awaited event.
 
Let me offer an alternate perspective.
Divide the people associated with Clinton into two groups: the ones who were going to testify against him and the ones who weren't.
Looking at the law of averages and the rules of probability, unlikely accidents should befall both groups at the same rate. Right???

Name one of his associates who was not going to testify against him who has suffered a strange accident.

Here is another. Hillary bamboozeled Nita Lowey out of running for the senate from NY. There was then only one other Democrat she had to fear. Can you guess who that WAS?
Can you say John F Kennedy jr. Sure is a curious coincidence isn't it?

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Better days to be,

Ed
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>The hole in Brown's head looks almost as if were done with a trepaning saw in an effort to treat a subdural hematoma.[/quote]

Good point. But if Brown had undergone such an operation, wouldn't that fact have surfaced by now?

And just as the hole is too neat to have been made by a bullet, it's even more unlikely to have been made by "something" during the crash, isn't it?
 
Matt,

Depends on how sharp the object was that struck Brown's head.

Something solid and blunt would likely cause an inward crushing pattern.

But something hollow with relatively sharp edges, say a piece of pipe or a table leg?

Who knows.

As for it actually having been a surgical procedure? I doubt it. As far as I know, when an opening is made in the skull these days, it is routinely closed.

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[This message has been edited by Mike Irwin (edited September 10, 2000).]
 
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