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To KGPCR...

Just because I thought about shooting through the door at the guy(s) outside doesn't mean I'm crazy or stupid or "very bad". Lots of things can go through a person's mind when faced with an unfamiliar or stressful situation.

The only reason my thoughts even went in that direction is that I was surprised to realize there were bad guys outside my door about 6 feet away from my position, and I was afraid they were about to bust in on me. You will notice that, while I confessed to "thinking about it", I did, on my own, quickly determine that wasn't the right move...so I didn't do it. :)
 
This is why I dont have a nightstand.... I have a gun cabinet next to my bed with a 10 gauge, a few 12 gauges, my USP, my PM9, and my S&W m60. Sitting on the ledge of the gun cabinet on the outside is the keys, and my cell phone. If i hear something that goes bump in the night, whatever went bump hears the pump of my shotgun in the night. Which I might add, is a sound there is no mistaking what it came from.
 
Ive always been paranoid of home invasion kick your door in type incidents. I keep the steel door bars at every outside door in the house. It wedges under the doorknob to the floor. I figured the average door being kicked in would open first kick. The bar will at least change that to 2 or 3 kicks and give me the extra 4 seconds to grab my weapon and point it at the door. They are less than 20 buxs a piece. 2 seconds could be all it takes. Doors with windows also make me paranoid. I know that most modern houses have a back door with full windows. But the motion activated flood lights are great. Get the really bright floodlights that blind the person:eek:. ANyways, theres my 2 cents worth. Stay safe


Master-Lock-Door-Security-Bar is the name. $16 on ebay
 
Call me stupid but I would have opened the back door and let my 2 pittbulls out with gun drawn. They could use the sob as a chew toy till the police arrive.

I always have back and front light on.
 
You mentioned pheasants so you must own a shotgun. If it is a O/U, double or semi auto that you hunt with buy another one. The sound of a slide racking on a pump gun will send them scurrying. I can just about guarantee they wouldn't have tapped again after hearing that distinct CHA CHING as you slide a shell into the chamber.

Glad everthing worked out ok for you.
 
Hi JR...

I live in the East end of Louisville... Do you mind being a little more specific as to your location. Cross streets, general neighborhood, etc? I would like to know for obvious reasons...
 
Sounds like you did OK... I'm not too sure I could've done any better, 'cept I have an assortment of weapons to choose from in the house... (no .380 for me... .45ACP or 12 Guage... .44 Magnum in case they're Zombies)

One (or two) posts mentioned "cover" as opposed to "concealment"... I'm not sure what, in the average home, would provide real cover... I mean most homes in the US are built with the internal walls being mostly drywall with a 2 x 4 here or there.... how effective is drywall at stopping a bullet (not very... I've tested it before)? What would one use as cover?

In any event, sounds like this is a good excuse to get some more guns... It's good to hear the LEOs out there believe in self-defense and RKBA as well.
 
To JupiterJoe:

I live in the northeast corridor framed by US 42 and US 22, just shy of Prospect and inside the Snyder Freeway. In discussing my incident with neighbors, I learned that there has been a considerable problem not only in my area, but in Prospect/Oldham County as well.

Also, the police officer told me about some home invasion/rape incidents in the area, and then a friend at church told me that one of her best friends was raped just a couple of weeks ago in the Chamberlain Lane area. The victim had always been a jogger, but this fateful day she came back from jogging only to find the rapist waiting for her inside her home. He apparently had been watching her patterns, knew when she would be out jogging, and forced his way into the house through a window while she was on a jog. When she got home, there he was. Clearly, there is an alarming trend of the criminals invading the higher-end suburbs.

I guess you saw the local news a couple weeks ago, where they interviewed the 72-yr-old man who shot the two home invaders? I don't know what part of town this was. If you didn't see it, the short version is that the man heard a knock on his door, wasn't expecting visitors. (Sounds uncomfortably like my situation!!) When he opened the door to see who it was, two bad guys busted in on him. One guy put a gun to his head. His wife was in the kitchen. He thought, "I'm a dead man, and they will hurt my wife, if I don't do something." So he faked a heart attack, and as he clasped his chest and bent over, he kicked the gunman in the knee. When the gunman reflexed in response to the kick, the homeowner drew a gun from his waistband and shot the gunman, then shot the accomplice. Then he looked back at the gunman, saw that he was still alive, and considering him still a threat, shot him again until he was dead. The news folks also interviewed the police and some other law enforcement person (attorney general? not sure). They all supported the homeowners actions, citing Kentucky's laws which ensure a person's right to self-defense.
 
Bad people hate lights

We just had our houses painted, 20 year old sub division (second time)

I have new coach lights to install, dawn to dusk automatic. The street light illuminates my path to the front door.

Glock 19 on me when I am up, bedside table when I am down. Small house, two storey, looking into gate on stairs. Marked Security vehicle in garage, it does not get parked outside, when out monitored alarm is on, motion detectors.

There is no such thing as a safe place to live, criminals have vehicles, coming in at night, I do a quick prowl about, Air horn and P/A get attention, never needed up to now.

JR, quite a wake up call Yes! Put the 3M hurricane sheeting on your glass, it is mandated on all Federal buildings now, a base ball bat takes a while to get through, also good for windy City. Orlando.
 
I think the best thing about threads like this one is it causes folks to sit back and "keyboard quarterback" the scenario. And No, I'm not being sarcastic.

What I mean is that it causes the OP and the rest of us to go over the scenario bit by bit and consider what happened, how to best respond, and then we all develop plans.

As someone once said "after the whistle blows is no time to come up with a game plan".

So every time I read a thread like this and review/consider the scenarios/responses presented it acts just like a sort of practice in case (God forbid) something ever happens to ME.

It also reminds me of important stuff like the fact that I need to get a good deadbolt on the front door of the house TONIGHT! (We're remodeling and doing that kinda got lost in the shuffle lately).
 
I had a similar situation happen years ago. I was spending the night with my grand parents, something I did Sunday thru Thursday because I worked in my gramps printing company next door to his home. As we watched the news late one night someone knocked on the door. They lived in a bad section of town but the business forced them to stay. Anyway Grandma jumps up (as did I) and asks in a very unhappy voice "who is it". I ran to my bedroom to insert a mag into my Mini-14. Without answering the people again banged on the door. Bang bang bang....three very loud hammer fists to the door......everything amplified because it is an old wood framed above ground house so even the windows rattled. My grandfather now wobbling his way to his 38 special and I am walking toward the door with my Mini-14. Grandma now really upset shouts again "who is it" her voice partially cracking. Again no answer. I got down on my knee off to the side of the door and chambered a round into the Mini-14. I used the rifles barrel to poke up the porch light switch. With grandpa now ready with his revolver I opened the door. I walked out onto the now empty porch only to find two large men running away.......one was coming down from having jumped the fence. I truly believe that the noisy Mini-14's bolt chambering a round scared these guys away. I made plenty of mistakes for sure but I was 18 or 19 years old and had zero tactical training back then. Still things turned out ok. Unfortunately both grand parents have since passed.......from natural causes.
 
I guess you saw the local news a couple weeks ago, where they interviewed the 72-yr-old man who shot the two home invaders? I don't know what part of town this was. If you didn't see it, the short version is that the man heard a knock on his door, wasn't expecting visitors. (Sounds uncomfortably like my situation!!) When he opened the door to see who it was, two bad guys busted in on him. One guy put a gun to his head. His wife was in the kitchen. He thought, "I'm a dead man, and they will hurt my wife, if I don't do something." So he faked a heart attack, and as he clasped his chest and bent over, he kicked the gunman in the knee. When the gunman reflexed in response to the kick, the homeowner drew a gun from his waistband and shot the gunman, then shot the accomplice. Then he looked back at the gunman, saw that he was still alive, and considering him still a threat, shot him again until he was dead. The news folks also interviewed the police and some other law enforcement person (attorney general? not sure). They all supported the homeowners actions, citing Kentucky's laws which ensure a person's right to self-defense.
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Kudos to the old man for faking a heart attack, drawing the gun and killing his attackers.....

I dont think a young looking 30 year old guy like me can fake a heart attack, but who knows, maybe I can fake an athsma attack??? :D
 
I'll probably be repeating a few things others have said, but here I go. First of All, Thank you for your post. Everyone enjoys a good story, especially one with a happy ending and good lessons to be learned. Glad to hear your doing ok. But dont be too worried, bad things happen to the best of us. Dont let this fill your life with paranoia, just do the best you can to be safe and prepared. Like a Boy Scout;)
Obviously you should grab a phone, but get the gun first. A phone will just get help on the way, but the gun will save you in the event that something happens RIGHT NOW! I'm not totally against yelling out "who's there" Because, there might be a chance it's someone you know, or even a neighbor who is in urgent need of help, but they cant yell for you because then the "bad guy" will hear them, hence the reason they come to the back door, ya never know Anything can happen, Thats also a great reason to NOT SHOOT until you know who your shooting at, and why! But yelling out for identification is more of a judgment call which you can only make at the time. I would think most bad guys would wait till they were in your house before shooting you, but once again, you never know.
I think the best thing anyone can do is to have motion detector lights at every outside door of their house. To scare away intruders, and also to help you identify who's outside. Many intruders wont be scared by them, but then at least you have a chance of identifying them.
Bolts that bolt UP on to the door frame, and Down into the floor are a great way to keep your self locked up in your house. Even if someone brakes the glass on your door and unlocks the door nob, they will have a very hard time knowing about and reaching the top bolt and especially the bottom bolt. And it also makes it much harder to kick in the door. But if you have an all glass back door like I do, your pretty much screwed anyway, but atleast you can hear them comming!
Having an alert dog is always a good thing! Doesnt matter what it is, as long as it can hear and bark.
Thats about all I have to say as far as your situation goes. Congratulations on how you handled it, even though it wasnt "perfect" everything worked out well.

My family has always had guns in the house, but never loaded and always locked up (I live with my Parents, they have always "Kept" my and my brothers .22 rifles locked away) But I'm 24 now, and getting things together nicely, and I am enjoying all my time at home with my parents.

I have been buying quite a few firearms over the last few years. (At my parents disappointment) (half of which they dont even know about:D, yeah yeah yeah, I know) And recently my Grandpa gave me his old Ruger Mark II. I have open carried with it just a few times, mostly to grow more comfortable exercising my rights, no matter how unpopular it may seam. And as of just 2 nights ago I've decided to start keeping it in the main open compartment on my headboard (I have a waterbed that I put a mattress in) right behind my Upright TV watching pillow, it's got a loaded 10 round magazine of .22's but I keep the chamber empty. Also keep a quick flip pocket knife within arms reach.
I even have a couple small boxes with paper targets over them set up on the other side of my room that I practice my front sight alignment, and shooting. Usually during commercials, with my very realistic airsoft pistol (30 bucks from walmart, just like a real 9mm auto)

Most of all that is for my own entertainment, and because I enjoy it all as a hobby more than some sort of serious training I need to keep me safe. I know this isnt the place to talk about my "beliefs" But I believe we are all safe, all the time, and there is nothing to fear other than fear it's self. Life is perfect and exactly as it should be, other wise it would be some other way.:)
 
Even if you have 10,000 watts worth of lights connected to motion sensors they are no substitute for a flashlight.

There are two things on my nightstand when I go to bed. S&W 6906 and a 3 D cell mag light.
 
I just wanted to thank the original poster. No Monday morning quarterbacking here.

Riminds me of when I had some loud banging on the door 18yrs ago in MS at 1:00 A.M. I investigated with my 357mag. It was the next door single mother who's newborn was having trouble breathing. It all turned out fine & she never knew I had my iron with me. My guard was up but you just never know.
 
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Thanks for the post. I'm happy that if that had to happen at least it was you home alone and not your daughter or wife there by themselves with some piece of **** tapping on the back door.

My good friend's sister and husband got home invaded. I won't go into the details, but it was really, really bad. At least they are both still alive and 5 of the 6 attackers were caught, one made it back to mexico and got away.

Anyway, good to hear that you're okay and my advice is shotgun shotgun shotgun, 20 gauge pump or semi for your girls when they are home. CCW isn't for everyone, make sure your daughter is mentally willing to take aim, pull the trigger and end a life or putting a gun in her hands is about the same as putting it in a criminal's hands. At the very least, get her the best training you can afford and try to get some women who have had to use guns before to defend their bodies/lives to talk to her so she can hear a woman's perspective and all.

I worry about my sister and bro-in-law. They live in a nice house / nice area just like what you are describing and as far as I know they don't have any firearms in the house. I wish they'd at least get a dog and a 20 gauge semi-auto. I'd gladly buy both for them if they'd let me.
 
First of all, I'm glad nothing happened to you.

Shortly after I got married, my wife and I were burglerized. This was in the best gated subdivision in North Miami and the house across the street was worth over $1 million five years ago. Bad things happen in good areas since that is where the goodies are.

Since you are already a dog owner, maybe you might want to get a bigger and meaner dog. That dog could live outside and cover your yard. I have an akita and they are pretty intimidating. They don't bark much, but when they do, its usually because something is there (could be another animal). They are really smart dogs and very loyal. They only thing is they shed twice a year and there is enough hair for 3 dogs!

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all the should haves were coverd already. glad your safe.

goes to show always carry even at home. just imagine if he just kicked in the door? you disarmed and in a poor tactical position having yo recover from the shock and engage hand to hand or retrieve a weapon.

again glad your ok.


situations like this are why i say work thru as many what ifs as you can and decide your course of action so you dont have to try to think it thru like you did during the huge adrenalin burst you were going thru.
 
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