Yeah, baby!! About time, too!!

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Pond James Pond

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I am in a supremely good mood this morning!:D

To cut a long story short, I have been bending members' ears about this pistol or that revolver ever since I joined.

This was partly to learn, but also partly therapeutic as I was still going through the motions of applying for a permit, and owning my own was still a distant dream.

However, 8 days ago, I sat the theory exam about the Weaons Act and yesterday I passed the practical shooting and handling test in front of three scrutinizing, and screaming officers (they were issuing instructions, but hadn't taken off their ear protectors...:rolleyes:), paving the way for me to be allowed to buy shotguns, rifles, revolvers or pistols.

Now, there are still a couple of hurdles to jump through but none of those are subject to my nerves getting the better of me and it should only be a matter of time before I get the little piece of paper with my handsome mug on it saying I can buy a weapon!!

WOOO HOOO.:cool:

I just wanted to share the good news as I am guaranteed a good mood for at least a week!
 
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Congratulations Pond, James Pond. I am glad you are finally on your way to owning a firearm.

However, your story does make me appreciate the fact that I am an American even more. It is nice to be able to have a concealed carry permit and carry a pistol for personal defense without too much hassle or worry, and to walk into a gun shop and walk out with a new rifle or shotgun 30 minutes latter (no waiting period in Florida if you have a concealed carry permit.)

I am truly sorry that you have had to endure so much, but I commend you for your perseverance. May others would have given up after going through the hassles that you have had to endure. But not you sir, and you should rightfully be proud of yourself for that.

Please share some pictures with us of whatever you end up buying, and if you are ever in south Florida, please send me an IM and I will take you to a shooting range and let you try out my firearms, at no cost to you. I will warn you though, my collection is not as big or impressive as some of those from other members here, but nevertheless I do have enough to guarantee that you'll have a fun filled day at the range.
 
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Thanks!!

To be fair to the local system, it is not that bad.

I am not a citizen of the country. I am an immigrant, so there were some documents and checks that took longer and were more expensive when you factor in fees and translaters etc...

Also some bits do make me feel a bit better about how they might not permit "Mr Angry" to get a gun, like the chat with the psychiatrist as part of the process!! I've met some folks here who really have an axe to grind: they are bad enough with how they use their car to that effect, let alone a gun...:eek:

6 weeks from now, I should be able to post some pics.... saving up is another hurdle no one can avoid!:rolleyes:
 
Also some bits do make me feel a bit better about how they might not permit "Mr Angry" to get a gun, like the chat with the psychiatrist as part of the process!!
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I'm sure the shrinks would have a field day with me, considering how many firearms I've purchased in the last two years!

Congrats for taking the time to jump through all the hoops. As much as I would resist making it a requirement, I think it's a good idea to get as much familiarity with handling and shooting as possible, and have taken several defensive handgun and shotgun classes as well as shooting on a weekly basis.
 
Scotchman, don't be misleading now. We don't need a permit to purchase a gun...but you do need one to carry concealed in most states. Depending on the state it may be a simple process, or an almost impossible one like in the communist state of New York.
 
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I would consider a FOID card like the ones required in "makes me ILL-inois," to be more or less a permit. It clearly is not as bad as most European countries but IMHO is still somewhat unconstitutional and/or at the very least an invasion of privacy if the firearms are meant to be kept inside your home for defense.

-EdInk

P.S. Everyone feel free to use "Makes Me... ILL-inois" line. (I think it could catch on.)
 
I just read up on the FOID card system in Illinois. It seems pretty pointless as all they do is run the background check on you to see if you qualify to own firearms, and if you do then you get the card. Then every time you purchase a gun you still have to go through the background check all over again....which makes the card pretty pointless.

In Florida we do not need any card, and there is no state gun owner's registry or firearms registry. We do not have to submit an empty cartridge to any police department, and private sales are legal. But must importantly, the state prohibits cities and counties from passing their own firearms regulations. That means that our gun laws are uniform throughout the state, a good thing if you ask me, as liberal anti-gun cities or counties cannot impose any extra laws to limit our gun rights. :D
 
Scotchman, don't be misleading now. We don't need a permit to purchase a gun...but you do need one to carry concealed in most states
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Hey, I'm a proud Floridian and I was in Iowa a few months ago and in Iowa you need to first get a permit before you can buy a handgun. Not sure the exact details but the permit is good for two handgun purchases a year, if my memory serves me right.

Sometimes we don't realize just how sweet we have it in FL...
 
Correction about Iowa. You can apply for a permit to purchase, which is needed for handguns. There is no limit on the number of guns you can purchase. Or you can take the class and apply for a permit to carry CC. That also gives you the right to purchase handguns. The CC permit is good for 5 years at a cost of $50 (one time) Iowa is now a "shall issue" as of the first of the year (2011)
 
I am mildly insulted, :p , we need no permit to purchase, own, or carry openly or concealed in this state, nor do we have a license to purchase, registration, "assault weapon" ban, magazine ban, ammo ban, anything like that, and I am quite OK with that. Having seen the number of people who have passed quite rigorous testing/training, including psych testing, involved in law enforcement, (Officer Harless, anyone?), I can pretty much rule out psych tests as anything but a deliberate stumbling block placed on law abiding citizens for ownership of personal firearms.
Congrats on getting through all the obstacles so far, Mr Pond. May I ask two questions, where are you, and where are you from, if you don't mind? You state you are a lawful immigrant, which is always a good thing, just curious where from, or did I miss that buried in a thread somewhere?
 
This thread made me think again of: How can the People trust a government that does not trust the people to be armed?

It seems that the U.S. Constitution concept of power given to the government from the People in a limited manner is truly unique. Moreover, this concept is getting ignored by many of our own elected and appointed federal officials.

Pond, James Pond,
Gratz on the successful completion of a required step to the legal acquisition of a firearm.
 
I am sure you explained this in another thread

James

What kind of arms are available for citizens in Estonia that have gone through the tests and training that you have? Are there restrictions on calibers that can be owned or magazine capacity limits?

Are you allowed to own a silencer for your guns as the French and Americans in the less restrictive (better) states do?

I like many others here on TFL know little about the laws surrounding firearm ownership in any places but the one that I live.

Oh, before I forget... Congratulations.
 
@Willie Lowman

Well, generally, most things go.

Having passed an aptitude test in handling pistols, revolvers, and rifles, I will soon be legally permitted to buy any one of those weapon types, including shotguns, on informing the police of my intended purchase.

The types of things that are not permitted here are military spec stuff: fully auto guns, armour piercing, incendiary or explosive rounds and the like. Similarly, night vision scopes are a no-no.

Silencers and laser sights are OK for the range, but I believe only tactical lights are permitted outside. they also limit the amount of ammo, or ammo components you can store.

Certain guns I would need a hunting licence for. Similarly, I would need to justify to the police my reason for buying a semi M4 carbine or some other more serious piece of hardware. For example if I wanted to compete in some sort of long range IPSC category. If I just said I love the rapid firing kill factor, they may say no...

So, there are some hoops, but personally I don't find them excessive.
 
be glad you don't live in south africa

competancy certification course - 6 hours
competancy certification application at the police station- 1-2 hours
competancy certification clearance and paperwork by the relevant department - 1 -2 YEARS :confused:
application for fire-arm 2 years , then automatic turned down due to "insufficient motivation" :(
Succesfull appeal using exact same motivation - 1 year.:confused:

License only valid for 5 years :mad:
at least with the next round I get to keep my pistol and it won't be lying in the gunshop's safe.
 
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I just read up on the FOID card system in Illinois. It seems pretty pointless as all they do is run the background check on you to see if you qualify to own firearms, and if you do then you get the card. Then every time you purchase a gun you still have to go through the background check all over again....which makes the card pretty pointless.
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Pointless indeed. Not only that, you must possess a FOID card in order to purchase ammo. You also must have a FOID card to even possess firearms and ammunition in your home. IOW, if you already have said items and then move to Illinois, you still have to have a FOID card even though they were given/bought prior to becoming an Illinois resident.

Glad to see another person in this world gaining their right...especially in another country. One by one we'll hopefully teach teach the world the right to own a firearm is instilled by ALL lawful people...not just the U.S...
 
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