Wounded Warrior Project = Anti-Firearms Industry

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Ron228 said:
This just went up on their Facebook page:
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Interesting.

That explanation seems to fly in the face of the statement on their site, the email explanations and the direct refusal to appear on GunTalk.

Which is to be believed?
 
OK, I am convinced, and withdraw my previous attempt at justifying their position. I guess I was so in favor of their purpose that I wanted to see it their way.

If anyone has insight into their finances, I would welcome a PM. If I am missing something, I would like to know how to better evaluate other charitable organizations.
 
The statement on their site seems very convincing. This comes from their 'how to do a fundraiser for us' page at http://www.woundedwarriorproject.org/get-involved/proud-supporter-guidelines.aspx

WWP website said:
Once your committee is in place, begin researching types of events to hold. Keep in mind who your potential supporters are, your event location, and your volunteer base. Some popular ideas that have been successful in the past include sports tournaments, walk/run, benefit dinner, motorcycle or car event, and concerts. When organizing a fundraiser or event to benefit Wounded Warrior Project™ (WWP), please bear in mind we do not support any fundraiser that is of a sexual, political, religious nature, or exchange of firearms or alcohol.
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They don't want your money.

pax
 
The majority of there statement seems to be your normal corporate PR/PC to back peddle some of the statements in the email exchange . If they would not have included the last paragraph . I would have said they were just covering there a--. The fact they said
We welcome the opportunity to have a warrior on Gun Talk Radio to discuss how hunting or events of the like have supported their recovery. We responded too quickly to his request and should have delved a bit deeper.
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seems to me to indicate they are sincere in trying to correct any damage they have done . Now lets just hope when the do appear on gun talk the host is respectfull and does not come off making us all look bad .
 
Metal god - your post said just about everything I was going to and better.

I was going to say it seems they're okay gun-wise, I just hope they didn't strain anything back-peddling that hard.

I know there are sites that 'rate' charities but I don't know which charity rating sites are any good. Anybody got some they think do a good job?
 
I'm glad that WWP finally responded with a modicum of judgment. But they have lost a lot of credibility with me.

As far as the earlier question/comment "Has anyone tried to contact upper administration? Sometimes we find lower level PR or legal folks putting in policies that seem strange at best. Is there a contact with the top ranks? That's the place to contact.

The girl who responded to Tom Gresham was the corporate Director of Public Relations. That's usually the top of the PR food chain.
 
More: http://www.examiner.com/node/55389381?cid=db_articles

WWP spokesperson Aylay Hay said:
We welcome the opportunity to have a warrior on Mr. Gresham’s show to discuss how hunting or events of the like have supported their recovery... We responded too quickly to his request and should have delved a bit deeper.
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From http://professionaloutdoormedia.org/node/7384

Tom Gresham's email to the company spokesperson said:
I would welcome any spokesperson from WWP on the show to talk specifically about the policy about firearms. I certainly will give you the floor to clarify your position. There are many questions, as you know. Nothing in my email exchange with Ms. Coleman was about cobranding. It was clear that the WWP would not appear on my radio show because we talk about firearms. That certainly is your prerogative. There is, however, much confusion with those who have donated to the Wounded Warrior Project (individuals and corporate donors) on what appears to be a discrepancy -- WWP will not appear at events or talk to media when it's about firearms, but WWP is okay with taking those donations.
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Complete emails at the second link above.

Hm.

pax
 
Sadly, the equivocation offered by the Wounded Warrior Project folks concerning suicide and service memebers is somewhat common, in my experience anyway.

After my Guard unit got back from the big Sandbox, we underwent a very brief cursory screening for PTSD and the like.

After answering my questionnaire and speaking briefly with a therapist of some ilk, my Platoon Sergeant informed me the he had been "counseled" that as a gun owner in the civilian world, I was deemed at risk, in addition to answering 'yes' to nightmares and drinking. (I'm a frat boy, I drank before we went downrange)

All that being said, post deployment suicide is a horrible problem in our military and among our veterans, but it's downright dishonest that WWP would try to hide behind it.:mad:
 
Let's give him a chance. I don't like the policy either, but WWP is an important cause.
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This thread is 2 pages long - here's his chance. I don't mind coming right out and declaring that I will have nothing to do with "important causes" tied to gun control. I guess they think it's ok for a veteran to have a gun when he is at war, but as soon as he comes home, he's labeled "at risk" just because he has a gun. Sorry, I think you are wrong on this - their policy is clearly stated. Why should we tolerate or support ANYTHING tied to gun banning?
 
I think the chance we're giving them is the chance to CHANGE the policy, not a chance to explain why we misunderstand. The policy IS clear. It needs to change.
 
After writing a vigorous email concerning this I received this response.

We appreciate your concern regarding this matter. First, these questions arose as a result of a miscommunicated message when declining an opportunity for WWP to appear on Gun Talk Radio. This mistake has unfortunately led some people to question our support of the 2nd Amendment.

Please know WWP wholeheartedly supports the Constitution of the United States of America, which includes the Second Amendment. We recognize these are the freedoms our Alumni fought and sacrificed to protect!

WWP has a long history of facilitating therapeutic hunting and outdoor opportunities for Wounded Warriors as well as fundraising activities that involve firearms.

Thank you for your support of Wounded Warrior Project as we continue to honor and empower wounded warriors.

Sincerely,
MELISSA MCARTHUR

O: 904.405.1350
M: 904.625.6491
F: 904.296.7347

Wounded Warrior Project
4899 Belfort Road, Suite 300
Jacksonville, Florida 32256
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Brian Pfleuger, you say that WWP does not accept donations from gun companies...but a previous post points out that Kahr arms made a sizable donation to WWP.

I am confused by your statement...and the wording of their policy.
 
WWP does not co-brand, create cause marketing campaigns or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies in which the product or message is sexual, political or religious in nature, or from alcohol or firearms companies

or receive a percentage or a portion of proceeds from companies/, or from alcohol or firearms companies.
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Its not just one long statement . There are commas and periods breaking it up in very specific places . The way this part of the policy reads to me is .

S&W wants to sell a gun , holster , shirt what ever and states 90% of all PROCEEDS go to the WWP , Because of how there policy is written the WWP most decline the donation . This is why the wording needs to change . Not cus they are gun haters but because it's poorly written and can be easily be misunderstood . Is this how it reads to you guys ?
 
Metal god said:
Is this how it reads to you guys ?
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No. That's not how it reads. There are commas separating subjects but there's only period. Commas are used to include multiple items in a list.

We may misunderstand the intent but there's no misunderstanding that sentence.
 
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