Would you turn up your nose on this model 70?

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I went up to look at this transition 1948 model 70 w/ a Lyman all weather Alaskan M82 with the post and CH reticle at a LGS and purchased it for $1150. I like the rifle and it's in pretty good shape for '48 rifle .The question I have,is the G&H side mount really that much of a deal breaker? Just wondering from model 70 owners...thanks. click on links please, btw it's a 30'06

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Just one man's opinion.I'm not a collector or an expert.

That G+H mount was appropriate for the period.It is quality,elegantly made.

If the smith did a quality job of installing it(no brass round head 1/4 20 stove screws,or extra holes)

Then I think you have a fine example of a well outfitted classic hunting rifle.It was good then,it is good now.

That Lyman Alaskan is a good scope.I have one on my repro 1903A4.Guessing E-bay value,the scope is $300 plus,and the mount $200 plus.

I think you found a prize.

Now,if I may politely suggest,just enjoy it!!

Why give anyone who would "look down their nose" the power to take away your enjoyment?

What do you see if you look back up their nose?
BTW,that rifle is four years older than I am!!I with I was in that fine of condition.
 
"Just one man's opinion.I'm not a collector or an expert.

That G+H mount was appropriate for the period.It is quality,elegantly made.

If the smith did a quality job of installing it(no brass round head 1/4 20 stove screws,or extra holes)

Then I think you have a fine example of a well outfitted classic hunting rifle.It was good then,it is good now.

That Lyman Alaskan is a good scope.I have one on my repro 1903A4.Guessing E-bay value,the scope is $300 plus,and the mount $200 plus.

I think you found a prize.

Now,if I may politely suggest,just enjoy it!!

Why give anyone who would "look down their nose" the power to take away your enjoyment?

What do you see if you look back up their nose?
BTW,that rifle is four years older than I am!!I with I was in that fine of condition."

Thanks....the gun is 5 years older than me! I just like it. It's certainly is not a collector rifle,but it certainly is about as close to a G&H rifle that I might own. The mount looks to be installed by G&H...most I have seen were poorly done,and that's one of the main reasons I bought it,other than it's a type II transition.
 
I once bought a Savage 99 in 250 that had a vintage Lyman scope that would not hold zero, so no.
 
Kcub, that's interesting because the Lymans were used by the military as sniper scopes on Springfield 03A4's from 1939 to the early '50s. They were M81's and M82's I believe.
 
Love the looks of the gun! I inherited my deceased father's Model 70- very early 50's vintage in .270 and it is a lovely gun.

I would be all over that Model 70!
 
, that's interesting because the Lymans were used by the military as sniper scopes on Springfield 03A4's from 1939 to the early '50s. They were M81's and M82's I believe.
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I may be wrong but I thought those were Unertl.:confused:
 
The Model 70 I mentioned earlier that I inherited from my father, originally had a 15X Unertl Ultravarmint scope on it I remember around 1963 or 64, going with him to Grice Gun Shop in Clearfield, PA and trading the Unertl for a Redfield 3 to 9, and if I'm not mistaken, he got the new Redfield plus a few bucks.

Fast forward to the mid-80's, when I picked up a Ruger 22-250. I was looking for a scope and at Grice Gun Shop, for an identical 15X Unertl Ultravarmint. Think I paid $150 or so for it & still have it along with the Ruger. The Unertl has, as my father's did, external micrometer adjustments, with the same recoil spring. In other words, a visual twin of the scope on my father's Model 70. Scope is still crystal clear and sharp.
 
There were two versions of Springfield sniper rifle.One was the Marine version.It used an 8X ,long tube scope in target mounts.I'm not an authority,but I believe some were Unertl,and some were Lyman.
The Army used a2 1/2 X Weaver 3/4 in tube scope.I believe it was a model 330 with a military designation of M-73.
Later in the war,the Lyman Alaskan was looked at by the Army,accepted and adopted as the new scope for the 1903A4 Springfield,and over 3000 of them were ordered.
However....the war was ending.The order was canceled.
So,I'm not sure any actual 1903A4 rifles were assembled with Alaskans,but,on paper,the Alaskan was a1903A4 scope.
I learned of this when building my clone of a 1903A4 .
I am not an expert or authority,but I believe a few Alaskans were mounted on M1 Garands.Then,that basic scope was redesigned with hinged turret covers,a small sunshade,etc.I think another company,not Lyman,got the contract to produce them.Seems like "Ford" was in the name.

I also believe,later on,maybe 70's? Either Redfield,Denver or Leupold made a limited replica run of the Alaskan.
Mine works very well for me.
 
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I always thought Lyman scopes were the best available at that time. B&L's were supposedly better optically (I was never persuaded), but had no internal adjustments, and I thought (and still do) that the Lyman was better than the others.

Jim
 
I own Model 70s and it would not be a deal breaker at all had I seen it.

Just the opposite.
I would have bought it at that price, as I have never held onto an '06 and that is a nice looking set-up.
Super clean and honest looking.

IMHO, the G&H is an addition, not a detraction.

JT
 
That G&H side mount is worth a pretty penny on its own.

They were well known for their quality and ability to return to zero if the scope were removed, then remounted.
 
MAN ALIVE:

I'd jump on that rifle, including scope and mounts at that price in a heart beat.

Wouldn't look back. I'd sell as many grandkids into the slave trade as necessary to raise the money.

That is a classic.

I have a rifle in similar condition but it supports a El Paso 4X Weaver and Weaver base and rings. Mine is a '49 model also in '06, its also a tac driver.

"I would be all over that Model 70!"

I like it! But I do know some wouldn't touch it with a ten foot poll
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Yeah and those people probably shoot Glocks and AKs.
 
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kraigwy said:
MAN ALIVE:

I'd jump on that rifle, including scope and mounts at that price in a heart beat.

Wouldn't look back. I'd sell as many grandkids into the slave trade as necessary to raise the money.

That is a classic.
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Thanks guys, this is only the 2nd model 70 I've ever purchased and I just wondered if I screwed up. Now I know that it is a "classic".

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You got a winner in all aspects!

Go over to G&H site and see what it runs these days for that classic mount and installation.

That is one lovely package don't let anyone tell you different.

Proof is always in the pudding' though ….. how's it shoot?
 
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