Would you let this guy cross the border?

"So you guys are for detaining US citizens without any reason?

Only, apparently, if he doesn't look like they do."


in regards to my "his looks alone were reason to keep him out" apparently, you dont know a joke when you read one. i dont support any sort of discrimination based on someones looks.
 
"Too bad he wasn't Mexican. They would have kicked him out..."


your kidding right? judging by the 15 million(estimated) ILLEGALS from mexico that are here, i dont think they are kicking too many out, nor stopping many on thier way here.


"The real question should be, why did he come through with the murder weapon And if he insisted on keeping it, why not clean it off?"


one look at that freaks picture will answer those questions.
 
jammer six, had that guy been an illegal, you would have tried to hire him. after all "when an illegal enters the country,we get stronger" right? isnt that what you always say?
 
The Canadians did not hold him, because as dean said, there is no check leaving the country.

And when he crossed the border, HE HAD NO WARRANTS. How many people here would be whining if it was a gun owner in his place, and they had detained him? Also, the stations are usually little buildings. they had no way to tell if it were human blood, animal blood (have seen a deer cut up once with a chainsaw), or red paint.

Do you really want to start detaining people because they look scary?
 
If I had seen a subject who looked like him, carrying as much kit as he was, armed with a improvised sword and chainsaw with stains of undetermined origin, I would lock him up.
 
heheehhehehehehe....I wonder if the picture does him justice. Maybe he looks quite wholesome in real life

I think of the Greek masks, where Tragedy smiles and Comedy frowns
 
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It amazes me too that some people here have such double standards. All you have to do is change the scenario slightly and the same ones that are yelling detain him would be singing a totally different tune.
 
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Blood - dried blood - has a particular appearance. On a chainsaw, I would say that any reasonable and prudent person would have - called the RCMP and let them handle the rest. If RCMP let him go, then I would have waved him on through.
 
Yeah possibly but noone here actually saw the chain saw. How much blood was on it? I don't know could of been a small red streak. Suspicious? not to me. Maybe it had been wiped down some and wasn't all that apparent. Who knows bottom line is they did question him and run some checks on him and he was cleared, it is not as though they looked at a bloody chainsaw and said ahhh he must just be a lumber jack who cut himself cutting down a tree and wave him through. I just don't see what they have to hold him on after they question him and nothing came back. Nothing he had was illeagal and he was a U.S citizen.
 
No. I have made arrests of those who were a little too odd in appearance or scent.
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Sir William, can you give a statutory cite, and authority?
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When I read this in the paper, I had one question:
When he walked up there with a bloody chainsaw, I have to believe someone asked him what the deal was with the bloody chainsaw ?

What possible answer could he give ?
I can't think of any reasonable answer.
"Oh, I legally butchered an animal with it and then decided to walk back to the US carrying it" ???? Are you serious ? This is June, people. People arn't legally butchering deer in June. You butchered an animal where ? Where is the animal now ? What kind of animal are we talking about ? "I am a lumberjack and I hurt myself with the saw and decided to WALK back to the US" Ok, you hurt yourself where ? Show me a wound.
Normal people don't walk around with bloody chainsaws. Your hatred of the government isn't going to change that.

This is beyond ridiculous. People on here will argue about anything. Some people try so hard to be PC that they have lost their minds. Let me help you out here. IF some guy comes walking along with a bloody chainsaw, a sword, brass knuckles, has blood on his clothes, thousand yard stare etc. He probably isn't knocking on doors to give you a copy of the Watchtower. Obviously, this guy is crazy. His actions are crazy. He looks crazy. No matter how much your PC culture has tried to brainwash you otherwise, his looks and his actions, and his possesions mean something.
If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck; it is a duck until proven otherwise.

I have spent over 20 years working as a professional paramedic. If I saw this guy, I would put all my experience and education together and say to whoever was listening: "Hey, check out that dude. He aint' right".


For the record, I wouldn't change my tune if this was a gun. If some guy looking like that was walking up to me with a shotgun in his hands, thousand yard stare, blood on him..................................... I would draw and fire.
 
I have to agree with 444. Me thinks decapitation would procuce an awful lot of blood (I'm assuming he used the chainsaw for that) and COME ON! An improvised sword hatchet chainsaw with red liquid-stain. Aren't brass knuckes illegal anyway? That last part might just be my state, but seriously! I'm not for stereo-typing, but good lord! They should have at least figured out what the stain was.

Hmmm, bob, look at this stain on this chainsaw.
Yeah, so? He probably just cut down a redwood.
Oh, right. Well lets hand him back his crappy sword, brass knuckles and hatchet so he can get across the border.
 
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Yeah possibly but noone here actually saw the chain saw. How much blood was on it? I don't know could of been a small red streak. Suspicious? not to me. Maybe it had been wiped down some and wasn't all that apparent. ....
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Well, the article states:
Gregory Despres arrived at the U.S.-Canadian border crossing at Calais, Maine, carrying a homemade sword, a hatchet, a knife, brass knuckles and a chain saw stained with what appeared to be blood
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That is "stained with what appeared to be blood". If we take it at face value, that is more than enough to ask, "How did the blood stains get on the saw Mr Despres ..? Now if more information is gleaned that indicates none of the Customs officers noticed the stains, we might look at it differently.

Or better yet, in my case I would have said, "Say Mr. Despres, while we are waiting for your prints to come back (etc) ... have a seat over here. Want a soda? ..."

And called the RCMP. Let them decide whether the blood was human or animal or otherwise.

Let's change this to "Despres was wandering down a highway outside Boston with a chainsaw stained with what appeared to be blood when Trooper Jones stopped to conduct a field interview." Now tell me, does Trooper Jones say "I have no probable cause to detain him and have the lab test the "stains" that "appear to be blood"?
 
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Even so, really if you do see blood on a chainsaw do you right away think "that guy must of murdered someone with that thing" ? I mean besides the movies a chainsaw is probably one of the least used weapons for murder right? I don't know but I would assume, and besides that guy coming at those cops a few months back with one I can't think of any inncidents. The bodies had not even been found at the time so it is not like that had that to go off of either.
 
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