Ruger, Tsk, tsk, tsk ... Did you actually read my last post? Of course you've never met me, and as this is not a visual forum, you can't see my "body language" when I say things like above, but To answer your first question... I would do my d*mndest to appear to have overwhelming "force" putting the other person in the situation of fearing for teh consequences of his action, should he take any.
AS for the rest, well, I take umbrage, sir, at the mere thought that I might be one of those that prefer safety over liberty. No, rather, I prefer to remain at large to take my risks in defense of the constitution and our republican form of government. If you have read my last remarks, you would have understood this. As someone great once said "The purpose of war is not to die for your country; but rather to make the other poor bastard die for his!" I would extend Gen Pattons remarks to include capture, etc...
I would put the premise to you, sir, that we are already at war. It is not entirely a cold war, as you have illustrated, however, it isn't exactly a hot war yet either. And until it becomes a hot war, my best course of action is to remain out of prison, for crimes, real or contrived, so that when it does become hot - and I believe that unfortunately, it will - I am available to answer the call.
In the meantime, I will fight this "lukewarm war" on my terms, not the gov'ts, nor yours, by tossing the occasional monkey wrench into the works of the "enemy" be they HCI or some TLA Gov't agency.
I have taken the oath that many here have, so many years ago. I will admit to not being in the physical shape I should be, but that does not diminish the ardor which I feel for this country and it's constitution. I, too, will still honor that oath to defend the constitution from enemies, both foreign and domestic.
As for treason, if this be treason, so be it. I am not saying that I advocate that we become sheeple and lay down and do whatever the gov't tells us we must. but I am saying that we must pick and choose our battles, and sometimes the very manner in which we outline our views may provide the spark, the impetus to some Gov't official with an overinflated image of himself to take "premature" action against someone.
I know I have no desire to have my daughter chased down the hall of my home by an armed JBT with a laser site, simply because her father made some remarks on a public forum that is known to have among it's members agents of the Gov't (be they freindly or no) - who knows who else is listening.
WOuld you in the middle of a battle, get on the airwaves and in the clear, unencrypted transmissions, inform others of your unit that you intend to take any action?
Ruger, you sound like a logical, patriotic person, and I am not trying to tell you how to post here at all. Far from it. But sometimes, you must read a bit more into the messages here (and sometimes a bit less). Go back, I implore you, to my previous post and read my closing remarks. If you haven't seen Casa Blanca, I suggest you rent it... look for that particular scene...
To the rest ... simply put, to the answer of the question (I think I've answered this now 3 times...) Yes, I would fight them.
FNG, I believe you are correct, throw off, as opposed to overthrow. But I think in this discussion we are talking about basically the same thing. I believe the Founders, if alive today as observers, would be standing on the sidelines, wondering why the H**L we are putting up with all this SH*T. So, yes, I guess we are a bit slow to "throw off" this oppressive gov't.
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I know not what course others may take, as for me, give me liberty or give me death!
[This message has been edited by TR (edited September 12, 1999).]