Would you do it?? Glock 20 vs. Ruger SP101

Glock 20 vs Ruger SP101

Look at the ballistic tables yourself. Mine shows the 10 MM to be closer to a 41 Mag than a 357 Mag. While I don't particularly like the Glocks, I do own a model 20, also owner a S&W 610 revolver. I wouldn't sell or trade the 357, I'd just buy the Glock if you like the feel of it. I don't use it for concealed carry, it's too big.
 
Look at the ballistic tables yourself. Mine shows the 10 MM to be closer to a 41 Mag than a 357 Mag. While I don't particularly like the Glocks, I do own a model 20, also owner a S&W 610 revolver. I wouldn't sell or trade the 357, I'd just buy the Glock if you like the feel of it. I don't use it for concealed carry, it's too big.
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Just to reaffirm my prior findings on exactly this, I just looked at Hodgdon's website. They have a pretty decent selection of loading data there for most cartridges.

According to their website, the .357 mag will push a 180 gr bullet well over 100 fps faster than the 10mm (top load I saw for 180 gr bullets was Longshot in the 10mm (1287 fps), and Lil'gun in the .357 mag(1422 fps)). You can upload the 10mm some to match the .357, but you won't exceed the .357 mag perfomance without exceeding recommended load data for even full powered 10mm loads.

The same loading information site lists a few .41 mag loads shooting a 170 gr bullet at 1887 fps, and a 210 gr XTP at well over 1600 fps. You just aren't going to get there with a 10mm auto cartridge.

With the 10mm you get a bigger diameter bullet for a bigger hole. With the .357 mag you get a smaller diameter bullet with a better sectional density for better penetration. Velocities between the two will be almost identical across the board with same weight bullets.

In addition, most factory loaded 10mm is loaded to .40 S&W specs. To get full powered 10mm loads, you either have to go to Double Tap or some such, or load them yourself.

Now, with all that said, 16 rounds of 10mm makes for a pretty powerful package, and it's certainly nothing to discount or sneeze at. The G20 is a great handgun for it's intended purpose (I know because I used to have one), but exagerating it's performance doesn't make it any more than what it is.

Daryl
 
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Glock VS Ruger

Daryl, I admit the ballistics table I looked at was older, and not up-to-date. But, I know the difference in shooting a 10 MM and a 40 S&W out of my S&W 610 with a four inch barrel. There is a big difference in recoil and a difference in point of impact ( about 2" @ 25 yards). My 610 isn't a light gun so you know you pulled the trigger when it's loaded with 10 MM. One advantage of that gun is you can shoot either 40 S&W or 10 MM from it, can't do that with any semi auto loaders that I know of. The felt recoil from the Glock is noticable too. I have nothing against 357's so I have no axe to grind. I have several 357's also.
 
Save up for a used 10mm Glock.

You can buy them for good prices.

Keep your Ruger.

It is apparent that it really agrees with you.

Don't make the mistake of getting rid of a handgun you like so much.
 
I'm a fan of the 10mm, but facts is facts. The 41 mag will beat it buy a bunch. I think the confusion comes from data some see on some of the SD loads developed for the 41 mag. They are light loads developed for better rapid fire in SD situations. These loads are about the same as the better 10mm loads.

Maybe it is just me but even the hottest Doubletap loads from my Glock 20 seem much softer recoiling and quieter than my 357 mag revolvers with hot loads. In fact I find that my 44 mags are more pleasnt to shoot from a noise perspective. They do recoil a bit more.
 
First do you have a glock
if the answer is no then go shoot the one you are going to trade for if it fits your hand and and works properly then if that's what you want trade away
if the answer is yes see the above answer and repeat as necessary
the difference in power is negligible
I can tell you I wouldn't do it but I am not you and I have yet to hold a glock that fits my hand the way i like but your not me and it may fit your hand perfectly
 
Both are fine guns by fine manufacturers. Only reason I would switch is if you want a semi over a revolver, since you already have other revolvers. As far as the power of the 357 cartridge coming out of a 3" barrel, I wouldn't worry too much about that. There's plenty of power there. Going out and buying a 10mm because you think 357 mag isn't powerful enough is a little ridiculous in my opinion. I haven't heard too many stories of somebody running across a wild animal backpacking around and discovering that a 357 mag with a 158 gr bullet is not powerful enough. That holds true unless you're talking about running across a bear - I would feel under-gunned without a 44 mag or maybe a 41 mag with a decent barrel (4" plus) in that little scenario.
 
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Trading any Ruger for aany Glock should get your man card revoked. :barf: Don't do it. You will regret it after time and you'll be searching for another SP101.
 
Webleymkv said:
No, 10mm is not superior to the .357 Magnum ballistically. While Double Tap and Buffalo Bore's 10mm ammo may be a good bit warmer than your typical .357 Magnum ammo, the .357 when loaded to it's full potential by DT and BB is still a bit more powerful than the 10mm.
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Well, if you believe DT's stats, that's not true. DT's .357 mag loads max out at 710 fpe, while 10mm has several loads over 740 fpe, including one at 767 fpe. I'm of the mind that the .357 has had the edge in load availability for many years. Now that some ammunition manufacturers have taken the 10mm to it's potential, you can see that it has the stuff to be a superior cartridge to the .357, something some of us have known for over 20 years. The 10mm is the reason I don't own a .357 mag.
 
The 10mm round does have a slight edge in its heaviest loadings. The Glock could also be fitted with a 6 inch barrel and a scope relatively easy. If you plan on hunting, a 41 or 44 mag revolver like the Ruger Blackhawk/Redhawk would be a better choice though.
 
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