Would they drop the tea cup grip on TV?

g.willikers said:
...The cup and saucer, two handed grip is still useful for slow, precision shots when recoil control and fast shooting are not important.
It's essentially a one handed shot with the weight of the gun supported by the other hand...
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I suspect that there might be something to this. I wonder if anyone has a documented study of the history and evolution of handgun shooting techniques.

The "cup-and-saucer" seems to do a decent job of helping steady the gun, but also seems less efficient for recoil management. While the current "hand-over-hand" technique seems to have developed largely for recoil management.
 
There are certain revolvers I prefer to use the C&S grip on when bullseye shooting at the range. Mostly longer bbl'ed, heavier,softer felt recoiling revolvers. Again, this is slow fire, bullseye shooting. I seem to be able to steady the pistol better this way.
 
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And unless you have Picatinny rails surgically bolted to the backs of both hands, you're just a tactical wanna be.
Hey, I'm trying to find a doctor to do the procedure, but nobody will cooperate.
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I'd be willing to help you out. I have an OR and a power drill. If we need anything else, there is a Lowe's down the street.

I'm a veterinarian, though - you wouldn't like where I put the thermometer.
 
When I was in the AF (70-78) the handgun I carried was a S&W Model 15,,,
The Rangemaster at Hahn AFB gave me the first quality training I ever received.
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The Weaver Stance and Cooper's Modern Tecnique of the Pistol had been proven superior to everything else two decades before Jimmah C's heyday ..... that bein so, how was your training "quality"?
 
Just a guess based on personal perceptions from loong ago, but I seem to remember that the cup and saucer as an attempt to move from structured Bullseye dicipline to using two hands.

Established Mantras like grip, stance, and breath control were suddenly less important. Shooters would no longer chalk an outline of foot position. Sight changes would no longer follow the path of the sun.

Revolutionary.

salty
 
Originally Posted by g.willikers
...The cup and saucer, two handed grip is still useful for slow, precision shots when recoil control and fast shooting are not important.
It's essentially a one handed shot with the weight of the gun supported by the other hand...

I suspect that there might be something to this. I wonder if anyone has a documented study of the history and evolution of handgun shooting techniques.

The "cup-and-saucer" seems to do a decent job of helping steady the gun, but also seems less efficient for recoil management. While the current "hand-over-hand" technique seems to have developed largely for recoil management.
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I think you are correct. If you look at the way people are now holding their carbines and rifles for practical/tactical applications, with the off hand far forward on the grip, rotated so the thumb wraps over the top, and compare this to a conventional "target" grip/stance with a rifle, you see that the two styles are for different purposes; the former is for quick transitions, and the latter is for best accuracy.
The cup-and-saucer allows the off arm to rest against the body, steadying the gun for a single, accurate shot, while extending both arms and wrapping both hands around the gun, allows for quicker follow-up shots.
 
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