Worst state gun laws??

Boy, you guys want to hear "WORST LAWS" you should see whats in store for us up here in the Kingdom of Canada. ALL handguns are registered and have been since 1934. A special permit is required to even take it out of your residence for ANY reason. They must be stored in a LOCKED container and stored UNABLE to be fired by means of a locking device. The ONLY place they can be legaly fired is at a Government Approved Range. I dont know of any ranges that are officially approved under the new laws (bill c68) that came into effect last Dec 31.

And get this.... handguns with barrels less then 105 mm in length... they just banned them, some folks can still have them, but they can only be transfered among those that are grandfathered. Sorta killed the market for defensive firearms. But that doesnt matter cause if you were to use a firearm in a self defense situation up here, YOU WOULD GO TO JAIL

Since 1978, to be able to BUY a firearm, any firearm, all us subjects have been required to have a Firearms Acquistion Certificate. Getting a FAC required a background check, firearm safety course, and a 28 day waiting period, these FACs were administered by the RCMP and took way longer than 28 days to get.

Now since bill c68, we need a POL (Possession Only Licence)at a cost of 45 dollars for 5 years, just to own a firearm and to buy ammo, and we need a PAL (Possession and Aqusistion Licence) at a cost of 60 bucks for 5 years. The form I filled out to get my PAL was 4 pages long and 60 questions, it required 3 referances, permission from my spouse and all spouses or significant others from the last 2 years.

But wait... theres more...

If we didn't have a valid FAC from at least 1995, we needed to take another GOVERNMENT approved firearms safety course, for long guns, and an additional course for restricted (handguns and evil assault rifles) firearms. These courses would cost about 200 to 300 bucks and I think take at least 16 hours for each course. I was lucky cause I've had the joy of being licenced since 78, so I missed all that fun.

Keep in mind that this is just to OWN or BUY a firearm.

It gets even better,

If you own 3 restricted/prohibited firearms, and/or more than 10 firearms in total, we get blessed with a "special" status that allows a "firearms inspection officer"

(Were from the Government, were here to help)

to appear at your door and demand to inspect the firearms, zee paperwerk, and the storage facilities. Your refusal is grounds for an immediate warrant to be issued and they can forcibly enter your home and seize and inspect pretty much what they want.

I could rant on about this 600 million dollar fiasco, that so far has licenced about 500,000 out of an estimated 2 million, and registered 350,000 out of an estimated 6 to 8 million firearms, but go see for yourself at:
http://www.cfc-ccaf.gc.ca/

Don't let this happen to you guys.....

PS..

Any one in the western border states wanna setup an adopt a handgun plan? Cause the chance of me ever turning them in will be slim to none. Idaho sounds like a nice home for them. I could still get down and visit them....

(just kidding for NOW)

WCG
 
westcangunner wins.

What a crock. I know you Canucks would never admit it, but ya'll probably would have been much better off if we had followed through with our plans to invade immediately following the Revolution here in the States (or was it the War of 1812?).

I like Idaho's laws pretty well. Courthouses and Federal buildings are about the only restrictions. You can even carry in the bar if you don't drink. I had forgotten about concealed carry outside of town; thanks for reminding me Brian.
 
Well no wonder Elmer Keith always had a handgun when he needed it, living in Idaho.One thing the antis can't except is the more liberal the gun laws the less crime you have.they need to try an experment.lets take a city like Chicago and change the laws where every citizen who hasn't been convicted of a felony has the right to carry a gun anywhere he has a legal right to be and than compare the crime rates in about ten years.What do you think?
 
Payette Jack -
Don't worry. They'll realize the error of their ways and become a state. With all the talk of Quebec separating, turns out that the provinces east of Q are just waiting for that cessession, at which point they'll be physically separated from the rest of Canada and already plan to apply for US statehood - or so say many of the local yokles.
 
westcangunner - It's good to see you here in L&P again. :)

Unfortunately, you have the dubious distinction of living in a place with worse gun laws than any state in the U.S. :(

I really do feel for you. I don't know what I would do if I were in your shoes.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by TheBluesMan:
westcangunner - It's good to see you here in L&P again. :)

Unfortunately, you have the dubious distinction of living in a place with worse gun laws than any state in the U.S. :(

I really do feel for you. I don't know what I would do if I were in your shoes. [/quote]

Sure you do. You would do like the rest of the sane ones and move to the US :).
 
Thanks for all your comments.

Canada is truly a wonderfull and beautiful country, we just have a greedy screwed up government controlled by eastern "city folk" who are constantly fighting about the French (them) and the English (us) issues. Our dollar sucks, were taxed to submission, but even with all its faults, I really do love it here. Keep in mind that more people live in the state of Florida then live in our entire country. (not quite true but very close) After all there is only 30 million of us and we all seem to live within a 100 to 150 miles of your border. So there is lots and lots a room to get lost and leave/ignore/put head in sand, the problems.

What happened up here with firearms, was they just kept picking away at them, slowly at first, and now its more up front. They wore us down, its taken 25 years but they have won the WAR ON GUNS. We didn't even know we was at war, but they just kept slippin stuff in for SAFETY REASONS. Kept making it more "inconveniant" and "expensive" to be a firearms enthusiest. This latest bill has finally made most people just give up.

Ive heard hunting permits are at an all time low this year and heve been declining for the last several years. I personally know folks out west that have been drawn for antlered moose for the last three years in a row. It used to be you were lucky to get drawn once in 5 to 7 years.

The ONLY posiibility we have, that will allow us to enjoy whats left of our firearm heritage is that our braindead government completely and totaly under estimated and lied to us about the costs involved. The cost of this licencing and registration is so HIGH and SHOCKING, that even "rabid gun grabbers" are taking a differnt stance.

Its estimated that it could cost as much as 2 billion dollars from start to finish for this registration, a far cry from the original 85 million that was first presented to us loyal subjects.

When America comes to its senses and decides to finish the invasion you started in 1796 (i beleive) call first, I'll put the coffee on......


WCG

[This message has been edited by westcangunner (edited October 27, 2000).]
 
You know, aside from the gun control and socialized health care, I think I'd really like living in Canada.

It sounds like you guys have the same problem that we do in Maryland and Illinois. The regulations get written by the big cities, and the people in the rural areas get it right in the hieny.

The obvious solution, of course, is to ban big cities! ;)

Later,
Chris

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Surely you jest ... like, as if, there's any competition to here in the Peoples Republic of Massachusetts ...

In the PRM, it is illegal for anyone shooting at a range that has a Class A license to shoot at any likelness of a human or any picture of a human. Jewish and want to shoot at a picture of Hitler? Illegal! Escaped the gulag and want to shoot at a picture of Stalin? Illegal!

On the other hand, don't like what someone is saying on a college campus? Fine. Shout him down. Perfectly legal!

Recently, a state judge upheld this law, saying the First Amendment of freedom of expression doesn't apply to gun owners.

You want worst laws ...hmmm...?
 
Within the continental US, It is pretty much a toss-up between MA, and the PRK.

MA is more friendly to Full Capacity magazines (10 politically correct rounds for us), but the PRK has everyone on AW's, and waiting periods. No Class 3, NFA, DD's, nada, zip nothing!

Nothing with a removeable magazine AND a pistol grip can be transferred within the state, no rifle, shotgun, or handgun can be transferred before a 10 day wait, including so-called "Private Transfers" that are very private, and MUST be done through an FFL, but the FFL's don't have an obligation to have to perform the "service" by law.

The recent passage of the 30 day limit on handguns, and the soon to be in effect "Safe-Gun Act" will pretty much kill the Handgun industry in CA. Gun Shows, they died a few years ago when "Private Party sales" got restricted, but had continued until the recent AW ban of 2000. They have already made a whole group of Gun Owners criminals, and sponsered a State run "Buy-Back" program.

Licensing & Training Requirements are just around the corner here also... "Sniper" Rifles will be next. Bans on Ammo, and supplies are being considered in SoCal.

The reality is that since they can't go after us in the "legal" manner, through laws, and legisalation to remove our rights, they create laws to remove to sources, and once the sources are gone, the Pro-Gun people will die with it.

The "Golden State" has been tarnished for many years, ever since Reagan left Sacramento. Since our state is being run by Hollywood these days, I am guessing that it's pretty much done, it's irreversible.
 
The peoeple's republic of MD isnt the worst yet, but the have to keep up with cali.. I have been told not to even try for a CCW, only if I have large amounts of money on me will they issue one... I work at one of the "big brother" places and I ask myself, if they are willing to send the feds to come looking for me in a few hours if I haven't reported to work, then why not let me carry..
 
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