troy_mclure
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i had a j22 i traded for a $25 fishing rod & reel combo(i got ripped off), it would shoot 3 feet groups at 10 feet, and about 4 feet from the poa.
Worst gun of all time?
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Oh, almost forgot a couple points of comparison. The Taurus has beautiful rosewood grips that look good and feel even better. They are sharp, comfy, and feel solid and not cheap or cheesy. They seem to be of a better breed than the rest of the pistol. Also, the Taurus has a conventional button magazine release. It does have a magazine disconnector safety which I find really obnoxious, but not for the same reason that everyone else does.
Most people hate the mag disconnector safety because they don't like more things dinking up their handgun and they don't want a useless pistol if they have to do a "tactical reload." I get along well with a mag disconnector safety like on my 3rd Gen S&W pistol, but the Taurus mag disconnecter keeps the slide locked forward when you don't have a mag inserted. You can tip the barrel of course, but you nearly rip the finger prints off your thumb and index finger if you try to retract the slide with no magazine in place, which is inherently "wrong" with a semi-auto pistol. If that weren't enough, the mag disconnector safety drags the magazine so horribly that you have to experience it to believe it.
I know full well that some folks carry a Taurus PT-22 for deep concealment defense. I don't have a problem with that. But I'd buy another Jennings or even a Jimenez before a PT-22 for the purpose of concealed carry or defense, and I'd carry it with an empty chamber. Niether of these is a proper defense pistol, but in the event of an FTF or some sort of jam, the Jennings is light years ahead of the PT-22 in recovery.
Most people hate the mag disconnector safety because they don't like more things dinking up their handgun and they don't want a useless pistol if they have to do a "tactical reload." I get along well with a mag disconnector safety like on my 3rd Gen S&W pistol, but the Taurus mag disconnecter keeps the slide locked forward when you don't have a mag inserted. You can tip the barrel of course, but you nearly rip the finger prints off your thumb and index finger if you try to retract the slide with no magazine in place, which is inherently "wrong" with a semi-auto pistol. If that weren't enough, the mag disconnector safety drags the magazine so horribly that you have to experience it to believe it.
I know full well that some folks carry a Taurus PT-22 for deep concealment defense. I don't have a problem with that. But I'd buy another Jennings or even a Jimenez before a PT-22 for the purpose of concealed carry or defense, and I'd carry it with an empty chamber. Niether of these is a proper defense pistol, but in the event of an FTF or some sort of jam, the Jennings is light years ahead of the PT-22 in recovery.
your spoiled brats
you all have had the good living with modern pistols.that was not the case when I was growing up.$12 a week pay,colts S&W to expensive at $30,so what to do. why buy a H&R or IVER JOHNSON,or red head,or forhand & wadsworth.they fired,some times the person on right got hit as the chambers did not always line up.but it fired.to get hit was not a good idea so BG did not want to get shot.medicine was not up to today and a hit in the arm could cost you the arm or your life.
you all have had the good living with modern pistols.that was not the case when I was growing up.$12 a week pay,colts S&W to expensive at $30,so what to do. why buy a H&R or IVER JOHNSON,or red head,or forhand & wadsworth.they fired,some times the person on right got hit as the chambers did not always line up.but it fired.to get hit was not a good idea so BG did not want to get shot.medicine was not up to today and a hit in the arm could cost you the arm or your life.
Oh lordamitey I had forgotten all about that Clerke. I worked with a handicapped guy one time and he said he had a revolver he'd sell cheap, $25, I asked him what caliber, he said .32, I asked him what make, he said he didn't know, so I gave him $25 and he brought it in in a paper sack sealed shut with Scotch tape, I put it in the trunk of my car. When I got home I opened it and thought it was a cap pistol. Did shoot some .32 S&W (short) in it, bulged the cases. Glad to know it did cost $14.95 in the pulp magazines so I only paid $10.05 too much. I also have a J-22 and you're right, that Clerke makes the J-22 look like a Korth.
Quote: "Iver Johnson and H&R made middle of the road, common man guns, not junk."
Very true. Good enough that Britain, in WW2, used the Ivers in both .32 and .38 and issued them to messengers, couriers and dispatch riders. These revolvers were proofed at Birmingham to the same degree as their own Webleys and Enfields. The U. S. used both the Ivers and H&R's issued to the same spec numbers.
Very true. Good enough that Britain, in WW2, used the Ivers in both .32 and .38 and issued them to messengers, couriers and dispatch riders. These revolvers were proofed at Birmingham to the same degree as their own Webleys and Enfields. The U. S. used both the Ivers and H&R's issued to the same spec numbers.
EricReynolds
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Deluxedirt, the reason that the Jimenez looks so similar to the Bryco is it's the same gun. Jimenez/Jennings/Bryco are the same company, different name.
bryco 380 auto
I have a jennings, bryco model 58 .380 auto and it is a pos. The gun always has been terrible about jamming. The shells will come forward out of the mag, hit the loading ramp and stand straight up
. I did a search on TFL to see if there was any way to fix this gun and quickly found out what most of you think of it. Now I'm not sure what to do with it. Some say that they are dangerous and prone to accidental discharge, I don't want something like that around my family.
any suggestions
I have a jennings, bryco model 58 .380 auto and it is a pos. The gun always has been terrible about jamming. The shells will come forward out of the mag, hit the loading ramp and stand straight up
. I did a search on TFL to see if there was any way to fix this gun and quickly found out what most of you think of it. Now I'm not sure what to do with it. Some say that they are dangerous and prone to accidental discharge, I don't want something like that around my family.any suggestions
Hunter Rose
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Heh... mom's first pistol (over my objections) was a .380 Bryco...
I TRIED telling them it wasn't a good idea. Pleaded with 'em, even. They didn't listen...
Hard chromed, roughly the same size as my .45 (but .380). Would NOT reliably feed, unless held sideways/upside down. However, held with the ejection port facing down, it'd go all day.
Dad tossed it in a river, and replaced it with a Colt Mustang. Which sits in my safe now: not many people get to show off "mom's gun"...
I TRIED telling them it wasn't a good idea. Pleaded with 'em, even. They didn't listen...
Hard chromed, roughly the same size as my .45 (but .380). Would NOT reliably feed, unless held sideways/upside down. However, held with the ejection port facing down, it'd go all day.
Dad tossed it in a river, and replaced it with a Colt Mustang. Which sits in my safe now: not many people get to show off "mom's gun"...
I have a buddy who owns a J-22. As cruddy as it is the dang thing goes bang everytime he pulls the trigger. He has no delusions about its quality, but its a fun gun for him. In my experience the Grendel P10 was the worst peice of trash to ever chamber a round. And yes once in a while it actually did chamber a round
but it didn't matter 'cause the frame would flex when the trigger was pulled, disconnecting the linkage, and disabling the gun. That is the only gun I've ever thrown in the garbage.
but it didn't matter 'cause the frame would flex when the trigger was pulled, disconnecting the linkage, and disabling the gun. That is the only gun I've ever thrown in the garbage.Horseless Trooper
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I have owned a J-22 since the mid-eighties and have been relatively happy with it. It has had a few failures to feed over the years but they have been far between. If the round makes it into the chamber it goes bang. Accuracy is good enough for the ranges I am going to use it at. It is the gun I drop in my pocket if I am working outside in the yard and I don't really worry about it getting sweaty or dirty so it serves it's purpose.
this one is risky, but here we go worst gun I ever owned about 4 years ago a kel tec in 380 I believe p3at. the damn thing smoke stacked every other shot. couldnt wait to sell it, which took some time till I foubd someone who said they could fix that problem. Gave the guy a great deal and said good luck. Guess you get what you pay for
RG 10
KC9LDB,
I had one of the RG10's when I was younger.It was bad about spitting lead when fired.It was like it was shaving lead from the bullet as it left the cylinder and entered the barrel when fired.Have you ever experienced this? By the way you must be a Ham Radio operator. So am I. My call is W4QQQ. Chris
KC9LDB,
I had one of the RG10's when I was younger.It was bad about spitting lead when fired.It was like it was shaving lead from the bullet as it left the cylinder and entered the barrel when fired.Have you ever experienced this? By the way you must be a Ham Radio operator. So am I. My call is W4QQQ. Chris
LightningJoe
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An 8 oz gun that throws .380 has very snappy recoil. You have to have a good grip on the gun. The guy who bought the gun from you just holds onto it better, I suspect.
passintime
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One day my dad calls me and tells me he has a really nice revolver he wants to give me. His boss gave it to him as a gift years ago and he says "I think you will like it". I say, "what is it, dad". "I think it is a Ruger, son".
Awesome! I'm thinking a nice speed six/security six type revolver. He brings it to me one day. I open the box.
RG .38 :barf:
What a piece this thing was. I couldn't bring myself to shoot it. Never will. My grandfather has a Clerke. I shot that, and I must say, it wasn't as bad as I thought. It took a leap of faith to pull the trigger though.
Awesome! I'm thinking a nice speed six/security six type revolver. He brings it to me one day. I open the box.
RG .38 :barf:
What a piece this thing was. I couldn't bring myself to shoot it. Never will. My grandfather has a Clerke. I shot that, and I must say, it wasn't as bad as I thought. It took a leap of faith to pull the trigger though.
armsmaster270
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I vote RG and Rohm I forget which it was but a guy was shooting one at the Sherriff's Range and when he fired the Steel barrel insert shot out of the cast zinc barrel cover. Quite a sight watching a barrel go downrange