Working out the kinks, Dillon Vs Mixed Range brass 9 mm

Come on guys...

On a 650....:
station 2 ...seats the new primer, bells the case and dispenses powder...( not 3 or 4..)....
Station 3 ...is the powder check die
Station 4 seats the bullet...
Station 5 ...does the final sizing & crimp ..

It is possible his adjustment is over belling a case and causing the powder funnel to get stuck in the case....causing the hangup that he thinks is between sta 1 and 2...

I suggest checking the bell setting ( you just need enough to hold the bullet upright in sta 4... ).../ check the manual, for the right # of powder funnel for that caliber ( just in case there was a screwup...).
 
Hi,

Really I’ve had two different things happening.

I was getting the “thud” and stuck Case on the powder funnel on the down motion of the press assembly. (Handle forward). Simple mechanical inspection of each case station I found that the only mechanical resistance present was that the case was literally stuck to the flare end of the powder funnel. For that I disassembled the powder die, found a buildup of brass/carbon forming a ring on the funnel’s outside surface where the case was sticking. Cleaned, lightly sanded, and adjusted the die to produce less bell solved most of that issue. Now, my bell is only about .005” compared to rest of the case body. That issue is resolved.

The other issue, was intermittently cases would come out (slip outward) of the shell plate; exiting station one during the indexing (rotating towards station 2 just enough to get caught between the shell plate and the spring arm of the primer delivery assembly. The case would wedge between the shell plate and the base of that metail spring arm. Not any interference with a die.

I didn’t really understand the comment about flaring at different station, knew it was @ the powder funnel so just figured another press was the example being offered or something.

Been a busy week, so I haven’t been able to play much, but I have cleaned/lubed as others have suggested and will see how she goes.

Thanks all
 
I've had the same issue with my Lee powder through dies, and a quick polishing with my Dremel and some rouge on a soft pad has eliminated about 90% of it. But, I only tumble clean my brass. I don't bother sorting other than weeding out the cases with the inner step.
 
Venti30,

With the powder drop/operating tube cleaned off with a copper dissolving bore solvent and then with a solvent and dried, put some powdered graphite on a rag or patch and rub it in around the expanding and flaring area. Then put the rest of the powder in a pop bottle cap and dip every case mouth in it for a hundred rounds or so, and then one case every once in awhile to keep it refreshed. The sticking should stop. The expanding and flaring part of the drop/operating tube can also be treated with a permanent surface lubricating treatment like Shooter's Solutions Moly Fusion product.

Regarding the jamming problem, I don't have a 650, so I can't address it from experience, but I can tell you calling Dillon customer service has always proven to be a good experience for me. 800-762-3845.
 
I have a similar process.
I sort by headstamp, decap/resize in a Lee loader, clean in a wet process, dry, spritz with Hornady oneshot, then load as usual in my 550. I only load WIN cases in 9mm, and have a bucket of them, so I don't really need or want any other kind of brass. I'm not saying WIN is the best or anything, it's just very common, and seems to be the most uniform brass that's very commonly found on the range I frequent. Keep what works, trade off or junk the rest. If you have the same issue with sorted cleaned lubed brass, then I would further investigate, but I bet it goes away.
 
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Brass sticking to powder/expander die

Wet cleaning removes everything from the inside brass surface. When it slides against the expander it will stick because of bare metal to metal contact known as "galling". By having some lubricant on the cases the problem goes away. I wet clean using a tablespoon of Armor All car finish per load. It works better than Dawn and has less suds. Although it puts some lubricant film on the cases, there is still some galling, since the rinse removes much of the Armor All.
I added a final step of soaking the cleaned cases in a solution of 2 oz. Armor All per gallon, then draining without further rinsing and drying on a towel. This adds more slickness to the cases and the problem was solved.
 
I've had some issues with mixed brass in 650, but the SBD eats everything without complaint.
I only do .45 ACP in SBD, so I can't comment about the 550.

650 shell plates and case pusher can be picky about those small diameter, short cases.
The 650 has a long case drop for full length rifle rounds, and that drop/bounce can sometimes causes problems.

I only do 9mm on 1050 now, mixed 9mm brass through 650 had issues once in a while, while the 1050 runs until the case feeder is empty.

My buddy has SBD in 9mm, and his eats 9mm without issue, and he reloads EVERYTHING, including aluminum, all range pickup, zero sorting.
That's saying something about the SBD!
 
I load with a Lee Turret and rounds do stick to the powder-through expanding die. I also wet-process my brass so I'd often wondered if that was part of the issue. Next time through I'm going to try some lube and see if enough doesn't get into the case itself to help.
 
Using mixed brass may be your problem

Using mixed brass adds variations to your material input that no press can fix. Sort your brass by headstamp, and try using ONE headstamp only, and you may no longer have issues. If confirmed, as the cause, order homogenous once fired, and throw your range pick up brass away. Personally, I do not mix headstamps for pistol or rifle brass. You can buy once fired with one headstamp (often this may be one lot, if you are buying from a LE range or certain vendors). Homogenous range brass is still way cheaper than new, and you will eliminate the variations introduced by using mixed brass.
 
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