Wolf Hunting in Washington

The only way to make wolves afraid of humans is to hunt them. My recent experience with wolves, and bearpaw's webpage tell me this is a necessary thing to do.

Buzzcook, Byeseeya...

I know the wolves that menaced me were not full grown because they were only the size of a labrador. I saw a wolf 4yrs ago outside of Cokeville Wy on a hillside, about 200yds from my truck, that was much bigger. He was stalking some antelope that were moving through a ravine. When I popped up on the hill along a 2track, he saw me and very slowly moved down the hillside. That was my first glimpse at a wolf. My 60y/o nieghbor, who was with me exclaimed, "oh my god, what is that?!" I have seen the gory results of thrillkillings by wolves on elk above the Green River. Folks in Pinedale have watched the thrillkilling of 3/4 of a herd of wintering elk. Wolves killed those elk, and left em'. There was a newspaper article on the incident.
 
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What you probably saw were pups Huntergirl, had they been full grown wolves, things could have gotten a bit worse. I have no doubt that things will get worse before changes concerning the wolf come about. To many people believe the lies of the pro-wolf people. If these same people were to see the the things that you have seen and I and several others then perhaps there could be some light of the subject of controling a predator that will kill everything, including you and I. I believe in the end it will come to the point where the people who are dealing with the wolves will be doing the managing, the threat of the endangered joke list is wearing very thin. How long can this lie be shoved down our throats. :mad:... wolfbait


http://washingtonwolf.info/
 
Buzcook....I am not trying to offend you, but you have been reading too much "Defenders of Wildlife" propaganda....:D

Statistics and dozens of newspaper stories tell the real story about the wolf in the west.

I agree with wolfbait, if you had wolves in your backyard trying to eat your dogs, cats, livestock, and all the deer and elk in the area, you would likely be singing a much different story about wolves.

Since you live in the urban jungle it's easy to fantasize about wolf pups prolicing through the daisy fields....:D
 
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One more thing I noticed in the comments about wolves in this thread was the comments about the midwest wolves and deer hunting.

Your facts are mixed, true the deer herds are high in numbers in central and southern areas of those states, but in the "northwoods" there are few deer due to over predation by wolves, and most hunters do not even hunt there anymore. Your comment was inacurate and misleading.........
 
When a person reads through the Washington Wolf Information page and the Washington Wolf Plan you will notice that The WDFW has links to "Defenders of Wildlife" which is an anti-hunting group. :confused:

You will also notice that "hunting" is not included in the language as the eventual management tool. :mad:

"Defenders of Wildlife" is one of the lead groups that is sueing the USFWS trying to stop wolf hunting. :rolleyes:

Any reasonably intelligent person could draw conclusions from these facts....:eek:

http://washingtonwolf.info

WDFW Wolf page: http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/index.htm

WDFW Draft Wolf Plan: http://wdfw.wa.gov/wlm/diversty/soc/gray_wolf/rev_wolfplan_cleanaug0309.pdf
 
So far I've shown that the wolf population is relatively low, under 1000 in Idaho and well under 500 Washington. That the other apex predator in Washington is managed well by the WSFW. Cougars at 2000 to 2500 steady in the West, declining slightly in the East.
Livestock depredations by wolves are a minor percent of domestic animal predation, less than coyote by a very large margin.
Finally the Idaho elk harvest doesn't show a corollary decline with the growth of the wolf population.
I've back up each with a citation of an authoritative source.

I'm done.



Buzzcook, you have shown what you know, which is zip. number 1, no one knows the population of wolves in either state you mentioned. The USFWS have under estimated the true wolf count from the very beginning. As far as Washington is concerned, unless you are one of those who has been involved with releasing wolves in that state, and monitoring the wolves we already had, then once agin, zip

Your information on livestock kills is flat out laughable, I won't even go there.:D:D Coyotes killing more cows than wolves, come on you need to get out of the city more.

Wolves killin elk,, once agin, ZIP.. Take a trip to Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming, step into their dust and tell the locals what you just tried to pass off on the rest of us. See what the people who live around these wolves have to say, step down to ground level, where the wolves are. If you can't afford the trip and still want to learn about the wolves, then pull up the wolf site below and it will give you plenty of the real thing.

http://washingtonwolf.info/

wolfbait
 
Idaho F&G Youtube Video On Wolf Hunting

Watch this Idaho Fish and Game video to learn the truth about wolves in Idaho and wolf caused elk mortality.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sWMpMoeN40Q&feature=player_embedded#t=170


Check out this photo in northern Minnesota to see how wolves are fittting in.

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Dog killed by a wolf. Note: The dog is still on its chain.
Northern Minnesota has documented wolves coming into towns to kill dogs.

Network news will not tell you what's going on, but you can get lots of wolf news headlines and info at: http://washingtonwolf.info/
 
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