Wolf Ammo

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I was wondering if anyone out there had used Wolf Ammo? I know is is Russian made,steel cased etc,was wondering how it performed? The price is reasonable enough,in 9mm anyway.Thanks..PJ
 
I shoot the Wolf ammo in my AK, and it is just fine. It is dirty , though. Some people have said that it is hard on extractors.
 
I've seen the primers get pushed in after firing. Has not caused a problem yet. I do like the ruskie ammo that comes in the little white boxes over the wolf though. Different plant... higher quality control. -ddt
 
I just split another case of 9mm with a friend today. I use cases of the 9mm. Works great for IDPA and plates in my P series Rugers and my carbine.

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I use it to plink with in my 92fs beretta. I have had good results with it. I have heard the steel cases will wear the barrel more than brass does though.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by ddt4free:
I've seen the primers get pushed in after firing. Has not caused a problem yet. I do like the ruskie ammo that comes in the little white boxes over the wolf though. Different plant... higher quality control. -ddt [/quote]


Never shot the Russian ammo, but from the posts on makarov.com I've learned that the two are the same. The white box is Tula Cartridge Works and Wolf is just the TCW in a different box.
 
Not long ago I posted the results of a day of shooting with 9mm Sellier & Bellot, Fiocchi, Blazer, Winchester USA, and Wolf. The test was in response to a post about the best "cheap" ammo to shoot. One thing that was apparent after a couple hours of shooting was that the Wolf was the filthiest ammo of the lot. I cleaned between brand changes and the Wolf left easily double the amount of residue that the CCI Blazer did (Blazer was the next to dirtiest...).

The Wolf consistently varied left of center with my CZ-75 and had a noticeably brighter muzzle flash and report than the other brands.

Just my observations.

PS: I favor the Winchester USA and the S&B when it comes to cheap ammo...

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I don't know all of the factors involved in the following situations, so don't take these examples as proof positive.

The local range I stopped by last week has a newly instituted "NO WOLF AMMO" for all calibers. The owner I spoke to was present at the range when an HK 9mm "blew up". A few days later, when the same owner was not there, another 9mm "blew up". Both were using Wolf ammo. What other factors may have been invloved, I don't know.

I have 5 boxes I haven't had the chance to shoot yet, so I have no personal experience with it.

Andy
 
This topic has been addressed in previous threads. Based on several serious quality failures that were reported (not just lots of dirty residue, but overloads and damage to high-quality handguns), I will not use Wolf ammo.

What sense does it make to spend many hundreds of dollars -- and maybe much more -- on a weapon and risk severe damage due to cheap loads, particularly when excellent quality target and plinking rounds (such as S&B, Federal American Eagle, Winchester white box, Fiocchi, etc.) are inexpensively available (try ammoman.com)?


[This message has been edited by RWK (edited April 09, 2000).]
 
RWK,
That was exactly my thought. You go out and buy a handgun that costs several hundred dollars, some several thousands. Why risk blowing up you gun with cheap ammo? Why? When S&B or Fiocchi is damn good ammo, albeit dirty but reliable. I've seen or heard too many horror stories about this Russian junk ammo. Do as you wish. It's your money and gun.

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i'm curious if the horror stories are like the .40sw glocks just being a time bomb stories? wolf works great in a sks that i shoot.
 
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by 6forsure:
i'm curious if the horror stories are like the .40sw glocks just being a time bomb stories? wolf works great in a sks that i shoot.[/quote]

The one horror story that I saw first hand involved the Glock 17. It blew up using Wolf ammo. The other guy at my club had his Glock 30 blowup with Wolf ammo. Maybe it's just Glock maybe not. Not worth it in my opinion.
 
In 12 years of shooting my G19, I never heard of a glock blowing up until I came to this forum. Svt has seen 2. I guess it is like plane crashes. I have seen 6. Most people have never seen one. What are they feeding those glocks? I feed the Russian stuff through my Mak without a problem. I guess it just likes homecooking. :)
 
Maks are all steel, robust and tough as nails. They'll feed anything you care to give them. They're not some high priced dolled up pistol that requires pricey ammo. My only regret is not having gotten on the Mak wagon earlier.

I think a service pistol should be able to reliably function with any standard ammo, whether it be Czech, Chinese, Russian, South African whatever. Never had a problem with any surplus and cheap ammo out of a Beretta 92FS and SIG Sauer p226 and P228.

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I think the key to this is the fact that nobody has been having prob's with the 7.62 x 39mm and the 9 x 18mm because this ammo has been made for the AK's , the SKS, and Maks for a long time. The Russians are relatively new to these other calibers.
 
The May 2000 issue of Gun World magazine has an article on Wolf ammo and they seem to like it. I use Win USA brand for practice - never tried any non-US stuff except for some Czech Semoiler & Beloit (spelling?) 9mm - it was OK.
 
Thanks guys for the input,I knew I could count on ya all. I only bought 1 box so if they won't take it back it is a small lesson learned. I have to agree with the folks here that any risk to your well earned handgun should be avoided,so I will stick to the other brands I have used. Thanks.....PJ
 
Houndawg,
Now my experiance with Wolf is only with 7.62x39. If I were there with you I could show you ammo I have from the white box and ammo from the black "wolf" box. It is noticably different, It may be a symptom of early production vs. late production runs or whatever. I can see obvious differences from the old white boxes to the new white boxes as well.

We did a test in an sks after we noticed the primers pushing forward. The old white box ammo did not budge from original and every one of the wolf's pushed forward.

When I said "different factory" that was pure speculation(you got me) but there are real differences that we have noticed in the ammo that we have.

We may be tooo anal about the whole thing cause every round went into battery and fired just fine. It was when we picked up the brass(steel) that we noticed it at all.

.02 on cheep ammo
UMC(remington) is cleaner than American Eagle (winchester) but very slightly more expensive so I use UMC.
S&B is nice and mega cheap. I prefer it to winchester as well, cause, although dirty, it is hot stuff. -ddt
 
Well, it sounds like the AK folks, over at ak47.net, seem to generally like the Wolf ammo just fine. I suppose 'home cooking', and the looser tolerances of AK's are as good an explanation as any.
 
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