Wolf Ammo (5.56)

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http://www.dansammo.com/ammo.asp
http://www.barnaulammunition.com/

I tried some of this Barnaul ammo which seemed to function a bit more reliably in my AR-15. I got an OK price on it when it used to be sold by cheaperthandirt.com, but they no longer seem to be carrying it. Referenced is its chosen supplier/importer, although I've not done business with them.

I really have to pay attention to scrubbing out the chamber when using Wolf ammo in the AR. If I don't, I get cases sticking and not extracting. Apparently it's not the coating, but fouling from gases blowing by the steel casing. At least, that's what I'd read...but I can't remember where I read that!!!

Here it is: http://theboxotruth.com/docs/edu18.htm
 
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Me and my dad shoot almost nothing but wolf ammo through both of our AR 15s and his is a bushmaster. I see nothing wrong with it. We've used more expensive ammo that would work. I think it works great, try it out and see if it works for you.
 
I would never use Wolf ammo in any rifle other than a AK variant or SKS style rifle. Steel cased, laquered ammo is going to do nothing but cause problems is a AR style rifle.

Unless they offer brass cased un-laqured ammo, I would stay away from it.
 
I started this!

well i started it so heres my results!

i bought 1000 rounds of 62 gr wolf (blackbox stuff) from ammoman.com was delivered within a week, was ordered late tuesday night, they are closed wed. and then with thanksgiving and all, i thought it was pretty fast shipping.

so anyways, to the results. i shot 80 rds today, pretty fast firing. no breaks inbetween. there were NO shortstroking, hard extractions or anything. NO problems at all for me. so i was very pleased.

20 of the 80 rounds were 55 gr military classic wolf. they worked fine as well.

accuracy was a little off, but maybe it was just me or i might not have my scope sighted right, idk. its a 552 eotech, and i was shooting probably 60-70 yards.

so IMO for the average backyard/plinking shooter that will not reload cases and just wants to have fun wolf works great! i paid $279 for 1000 rounds and the cheapest brass was $330-$350. so if a part breaks or something, the way im thinking is i have $50-$70 dollars to fix it. and thats if it breaks on the first case, if it lasts longer im saving even more.

so i loved it, and i will definitley buy more. i have a RRA ar-15

oh, and people talk about lacquer coating, it's now a "polymer" coating, not sure if its a big difference or what. but i didnt have any problems with it.
 
wikipedia has a nice write up on wolf ammo.. be sure to read the paragraph on potential problems.

Yes I have tried it and yes I had problems. We all know how firearms can almost choose the ammo you feed them. If you use wolf and like it, I am glad.
 
I don't like Wolf Ammo and here is why:

1. Its made in Russia
2. The money made on the ammo goes to Russia
3. The case is steel, Steel case going into steel chamber= Rapid wear
4. "Oh they coat it with Lacquer" If Lacqure was fire/heat proof Firemen would paint themselves with it. The Lacqure burns off in a hot chamber and coats the chamber or goes into the gas system on an AR. They can call it whatever they want the bottomline is its coated with a meterial that burns off in a hot chamber.
5. I have shot some over a Chronograph through a H&R Handi rifle to see how consistent it was, It was not! Can you believe 100FPS spreads?
6. Did I say you are giving Money to a country that would like to see the US destroyed
7. Ken is correct. I would not shoot that STUFF in anything but a handi rifle and even then I borrowed the gun;)

If you want cheap ammo, Reload. Get a Dillon and you will have 500 rds in about 2 hours and thats if you are taking your time.
 
Get cheaper Federal .223

Wolf? no way when you can purchase the cheaper version of Federal .223 on sale now at Sportsman Warehouse. You want a quality ammo no matter if you are at the range or have to use it someday to defends yourself or family. That is just my opinion. Ammo is not something to have to worry about or wonder if you chose the right brand, etc. Spend a little more and have piece of mind would be my choice.
 
Wolf

I have shot hundreds of rounds of Wolf Ammo without any problems. I clean my rifle after every 200 rds. I see nothing wrong with having a few thousands of rounds in stock in case of a rainy apocolypse. I'd rather have 2000 rds of wolf than 500 rds of Federal...
 
if im only going to put around 100 t0 200 hundred rounds and have time to clean my ar i use wolf with no problem. i use wolf for alot of my guns and rifles. but if you just want cheap ammo for plinking they have 100 rnd 223 in brass case by federal at walmart for 40 bucks . i shoot wolf and yest its a dirty round!!! but still shoots fair! and a good price. but i still stock up on rangers when i get the chance. i still havent tried lake city ammo. any one try that? let me know what you think.
 
oh yeah you can now get wolf ammo without the lacquer. we just shot of about 1000 rounds yesterday through 2 sks's and a ak. the shoot the same but still dirty.
 
I dont feed my guns junk.

...and no i havent used it(at least not in my own guns)...

Because i dont feed my guns junk.;)

Although,i am a notorious snob because i dont like to skimp on things that go boom right in front of my face(or anything that gos in/on them).

I'll suck it up and by surplus M193 for my plinking.
 
I have 1,000s of rnds of Wolf. I've fired 1,000s of Wolf.

The only problem I can recall happening is a case stuck in the chamber that couldn't extract. The truth be told, I had never cleaned the chamber&bore on that weapon before that instance. I learned a valuable lesson that day. It took a rod to pop that case out. KEEP your weapon clean.

I wouldn't want to stand down range of someone firing Wolf any more than someone firing any other ammo. I know there are differences in the ammo, but if you're stocking up ... get what you can as soon as you can. Better ammo would be ... ideal sure.

One thing I was told with regarding a SHTF scenario:
If you have to fire 1,000 rnds to defend yourself ... and if you are successful; don't you think that you'll have at least something to show for it (other than your life)? Bound to be able to pick up at least 1 weapon, some ammo, a decent optic, etc...
 
wolf

wolf is garbage! A round got stuck in my m-4 upper and had to dissassemble the whole thing to get it out.
Now Only shoot surpluss brass and reload more accurate ammo.
 
wolf is garbage! A round got stuck in my m-4 upper and had to dissassemble the whole thing to get it out.
Now Only shoot surpluss brass and reload more accurate ammo.
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What brand upper? Most of the commercial 1/9 barrels tend to be on the tight side of chamber dimensions.
 
gustav129 wrote:
I've put 100's of rounds of Wolf (Black Box, 122gr) through my SKS. On other SKS specific forums, I have heard a couple stories involving broken firing pins, punctured primers, and so forth, but only the Wolf Military Classic was involved.

Also, I have had a problem with Winchester 7.62x39mm through my SKS. What that comes down to, American made 7.62 is slightly different. 7.62 NATO is closer to .308 than 7.62x39, so you use american made stuff in american made rifles, like the Ruger Mini-30.

As for the differences between .223 and 5.56 NATO, I'm not sure.

Just throwing out, the idea, of using american made ammo for an american made firearm.
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7.62x51 is alot different than 7.62x39. Please don't try to use .308 in a mini-14...it would be all bad.:eek:

Also, for some of you shooting 5.56mm wolf...if your rifle is chambered for .223 only, you could be having some of your difficulties there also. The standard 5.56mm is ever so slightly longer, and loaded to a slightly higher pressure. From what i understand, it will fire, but can cause problems.
 
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