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Winchester Rifle Expertise Needed!
- Thread starter mywinch
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Mike Irwin
Staff
Yeah, your new picture, I see the dovetail now.
That said, that looks like an OLD fix. Not something new done in the past 20 years. I'd venture to say that it could well be before World War I. Most common cause for such a repair is damage to the magazine tube.
As it's an old repair, that might not hurt the value all that much.
That said, that looks like an OLD fix. Not something new done in the past 20 years. I'd venture to say that it could well be before World War I. Most common cause for such a repair is damage to the magazine tube.
As it's an old repair, that might not hurt the value all that much.
Mike,
I know my grandfather got it in the 60's and maybe used it a handful of times. He says he got it from a "johnny appleseed" type character in a small town in NH, so there is no telling how old the modification was, but it very well could have been pre-WWI. The fact that it probably happened in the very early 20th century or before makes it even more intriguing to me as a historical item...if only it could speak!
I know my grandfather got it in the 60's and maybe used it a handful of times. He says he got it from a "johnny appleseed" type character in a small town in NH, so there is no telling how old the modification was, but it very well could have been pre-WWI. The fact that it probably happened in the very early 20th century or before makes it even more intriguing to me as a historical item...if only it could speak!
Several possible explanations for the condition of the rifle:
* The half magazine could be original and the barrel be a replacement
* The barrel could be original and the half magazine could be a repaired crushed magazine tube.
* The rifle could be a parts gun assembled from various left over parts to put a serviceable action back in service.
One thing is sure, a letter from Cody will tell you how it looked when it left the factory.
* The half magazine could be original and the barrel be a replacement
* The barrel could be original and the half magazine could be a repaired crushed magazine tube.
* The rifle could be a parts gun assembled from various left over parts to put a serviceable action back in service.
One thing is sure, a letter from Cody will tell you how it looked when it left the factory.
Mike Irwin
Staff
"After condition, collectors like originality, so if the gun was altered after it left the factory that reduces its value."
True. But a period alteration tends to reduce the value less than one that was made say 5 years ago.
True. But a period alteration tends to reduce the value less than one that was made say 5 years ago.
I think it is just a rifle whose owner wanted a short magazine. BTW, that cut isn't a straight dovetail slot as we usually think of it. It is actually a circular cut. To remove the magazine ring (once the tube is removed) it has to be turned 90 degrees. Many rifles have been damaged by attempts to drive it out crosswise like a dovetail sight.
Jim
Jim
Lucas McCain
New member
May I ask what the significance of pictures #17 are. #17 is a picture of a full length magazine and picture #18 is a picture of a 1986 winchester.
Do you have pictures of the rear tang?
That should clearly tell you what model of rifle this is. The model notation was either on the rear tang or the barrel.
The front and rear sights aren't correct for a 1892 either.
Do you have pictures of the rear tang?
That should clearly tell you what model of rifle this is. The model notation was either on the rear tang or the barrel.
The front and rear sights aren't correct for a 1892 either.