Winchester manufacturing

Too bad US manufacturers never bought in to Deming's ideas.
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And the Japanese did. And the result is our love for things with names like Sony, Panasonic, Toyota, Honda, Samsung, etc.
 
I worked for a manufacturing company that adopted Deming's philosophies and it was neat to see how well they worked. On the surface his ideas seem so simple and obvious, but it does take a holistic commitment and the realization that the improvement process never stops.
 
Git R Done

Ya it's a comedians tag line, but it's also part of the culture.

Quality is never done, yet it seems it is human nature to be done with a task.
 
To be more accurate, I asked an acquaintance at Hodgdon what they manufacture.
Here's the response I just got:

"Hodgdon manufactures Pyrodex, Triple Seven, White Hots and GOEX black powder. No secret that we purchase smokeless powders (since 1961) from vendor partners in the USA, Canada (owned by a USA company) and Australia. Hodgdon, IMR, and Winchester smokeless powders are manufactured under our strict specifications."
Denis
 
Winchester went under in 1963 because milled guns couldn't compete with stamped construction. There is a book on the Winchester Company that deals only with the workings
and policies of the company. It is dry & boring but will give a clear understanding of what went on there. All the guns since 1964 are not really Wins, other than the name.

I won't buy a gun that is farmed out and don't buy guns new or used made after the Original company goes belly up. I don't know of any of these take overs that produced a
equal or better product. There is a time line on this which is easy to figure out by the price
of the original guns vs the new models. The new generation of shooters are not into classic
firearms. They are buying the action hero and guns of the games on net. The price on hi condition shooters of the classic guns are coming down. You can buy a good used rifle or
shotgun for $300-$400 , why buy a new import?
 
Thanks for all the replies!! As I said in my original post that started this thread, I don’t care who owns the rights to the name ‘Winchester’. What I do care about is that this firearm is produced right here where it’s Heritage was started… The good Ol’USA.

Other firearm manufacturers are thriving here ( maybe not Remington.. as their quality control is in the tank ).. and we now have the best economy on this planet! With the massive reduction in regulations, The United States has not been this friendly for businesses in more than 50 years.

Have you noticed that Winchester ammunition says on the box… Made in the USA… And it’s very good ammo in my opinion. I really don’t think it’s inconceivable any longer to think that in the near future, production of Winchester firearms will be brought back to the United States.

Thankfully, I’m very blessed to be a prosperous citizen in this country and by no means am I wealthy! With that said, I am more than willing to pay for a Mossberg firearm rather than a Maverick model that’s made in Mexico just so I can keep people working in this country!
I certainly have no problem keeping the Maverick in the lineup for people who truly need a financial break. But those of us who can afford a few dollars more should invest in keeping Americans employed.

God bless American Firearms production and Happy Thanksgivin’!
 
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Not all Winchester-marked ammunition is made in the US, and for the reasons I gave earlier I can't see actual US-made Winchester rifles or shotguns returning to these shores. :)

It'd require either a totally new factory (expensive & unlikely) or an expansion of the FN facility (expensive & unlikely). :)
Denis
 
I have American made guns and that is what I buy when I can. But I also have three Levers made in Japan. Two of them are Browning BL-22's and the third is a Winchester 1892 in 44 Mag. I have had Winchesters in the past made after 1964 and they really never did anything for me. This new Winchester is made better than any Winchester made after 1964. The same plant that makes the Browning BL-22's also makes this Winchester. They are top notch rifles and none to be found better. Yes it was pricey but well worth it. I due have a Winchester 9422 made in 1978 when they were making them from steel again. It is a great quality rifle and no lever action .22 rifle can compare with it. I don't even mind the tang safety on the 1892. Marlin makes a good rifle also but if you hand load their bores are a tad bigger and you have to load especially for the larger bore size. Marlins quality is almost as nice but not quite as good as the Japanese made Winchester.
Please don't think I am taking offense to the arguments above. I see everyone's point of view and really do agree with the Buy American when possible. I use to do that with all my guns then I realized I was missing out on some great guns. I only own the three Japanese made rifles and everything else I own is USA made. Marlin, Henry, Winchester, S&W and Ruger.
 
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