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Will this be our "The Port Arthur massacre"
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Glenn E. Meyer
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Tom Selleck suffered the awesome wrath of Rosy O'Donnell.
Celebrities will consult their PR folks and decide. Some are supposedly secret gun fans but hide it for PC considerations.
Steven Spielberg was once on the cover of a deceased gun rag. In fact, having the D list support guns is counterproductive.
Celebrities will consult their PR folks and decide. Some are supposedly secret gun fans but hide it for PC considerations.
Steven Spielberg was once on the cover of a deceased gun rag. In fact, having the D list support guns is counterproductive.
Carry_24/7
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It's too late for this time and place, this should have been done years ago....opportunity lost.
The NRA needs to begin courting the next "Oprah", Anderson Cooper, etc... get them on the gun range, get video of it, put it in their archives.
Commercials are not what's needed, we need everyday looking photo shoots on the range, current pop-stars shooting, and enjoying it....as who would not enjoy burning a full mag through an MP-5? Get the WWE stars out, what would they enjoy more, golf or emptying an M-4? Who's got the larger circle of influence among the mainstream, John Cena or Charelston Heston?
We've got to change our face to reflect the current and future U.S. population or..no matter what the "current" constitution says...all could be lost.
What can we do as individuals? Keep paying NRA dues, but demand they stop just courting the crowd that already have, it will take more than dues, retired rock stars, and a few no-name elderly politicians to save our future.
The NRA needs to begin courting the next "Oprah", Anderson Cooper, etc... get them on the gun range, get video of it, put it in their archives.
Commercials are not what's needed, we need everyday looking photo shoots on the range, current pop-stars shooting, and enjoying it....as who would not enjoy burning a full mag through an MP-5? Get the WWE stars out, what would they enjoy more, golf or emptying an M-4? Who's got the larger circle of influence among the mainstream, John Cena or Charelston Heston?
We've got to change our face to reflect the current and future U.S. population or..no matter what the "current" constitution says...all could be lost.
What can we do as individuals? Keep paying NRA dues, but demand they stop just courting the crowd that already have, it will take more than dues, retired rock stars, and a few no-name elderly politicians to save our future.
That's a hard thing to do when any such celebrity is going to get a ton of blowback from his colleagues and industry.The NRA needs to begin courting the next "Oprah", Anderson Cooper, etc... get them on the gun range, get video of it, put it in their archives.
There have been 17 mass shootings in 2012 killing 90 people.
Who among us hasn't thought that at some point, some depraved act would be committed which would tip the balance? If not this one....?
I think this is going to be a real hit list. Firearms, accessories, ammunition and restrictions.
Future Supreme Court appointees will have an impact on the 2nd Amendment and gun control as probably can't be imagined.
I'm glad our founding fathers used this text in the 2nd Amendment: "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms....
Instead of
"...the right of the people to keep and bear muskets...."
Of course on a lighter side: "...the right of the people to bare arms..." would be a disaster.
Who among us hasn't thought that at some point, some depraved act would be committed which would tip the balance? If not this one....?
I think this is going to be a real hit list. Firearms, accessories, ammunition and restrictions.
Future Supreme Court appointees will have an impact on the 2nd Amendment and gun control as probably can't be imagined.
I'm glad our founding fathers used this text in the 2nd Amendment: "...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms....
Instead of
"...the right of the people to keep and bear muskets...."
Of course on a lighter side: "...the right of the people to bare arms..." would be a disaster.
Who among us hasn't thought that at some point, some depraved act would be committed which would tip the balance?
ah, that would have been the last election....
Seriously, this is the usual suspects making the usual whiny screams, trying to pass their agenda on the blood of innocents.
The main difference is that the media is telling us this time, "this is it, we're winning, you're going to lose assault weapons and every other bad thing..."
Well they are lying about that just like they lie about so much else. Its not a Port Arthur massacre, its a Reichstag Fire. OR will be, if they can convince enough people so the truth doesn't matter.
They can talk all they want, claim victoryto the heavens, but it isn't over until the votes are taken, and frankly, I don't think they have enough to steamroller us. Remember that the Clinton AWB passed by ONE vote (or so Inslee said, claiming the vote was his).
THey talk of buy backs, and turn ins, Australia is being mentioned lately. Consider this, by their own accounts, the semi auto ban in Australia got not quite 20% compliance. That's right, those loyal, law abiding citizens turned in about one fifth of the arms (in the banned catagories) the govt estimated were in the country. All they really achieved is that people can no longer legally go out and play with their semi autos.
Only about 1 in 5 were turned in, the rest? My guess is they are stashed away someplace(s), being held against severe need.
Similarly, Canada's estimated compliance rate for their comprehensive gun registration programs is also estimated at about 20%.
IF they do it here, I would expect about the same compliance rate, or even less.
We do need to fight, always. Rights deniers never go away, and seldom rest.
But the opera isn't over, the fat lady isn't even in the dressing room yet, let alone warming up for her performance.
They are playing recordings of her singing, and telling us its over, go home, give it all up. They lie. By omission and by comission. Its not over, not by a long shot.
Carry_24/7
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AMP44; that's a great argument, a lot of useful and accurate information.
When I read your comment on the lack of compliance in Australia, my first subconscious thought was, "but something they did tremendously reduced gun violence." I don't know what that "something" is, but something appears to have worked, and it involved a weapons ban.
I hope you are correct and I am incorrect in our chances at a loss here, truly.
When I read your comment on the lack of compliance in Australia, my first subconscious thought was, "but something they did tremendously reduced gun violence." I don't know what that "something" is, but something appears to have worked, and it involved a weapons ban.
I hope you are correct and I am incorrect in our chances at a loss here, truly.
When I read your comment on the lack of compliance in Australia, my first subconscious thought was, "but something they did tremendously reduced gun violence." I don't know what that "something" is, but something appears to have worked, and it involved a weapons ban.
It did? I just read a Wall Street Journal piece that cited research that indicated that it had no measureable effect in Australia, and also indicated that following the U.K's handgun ban there was a huge spike in gun crime and crime overall. I wish I had the link.
I sent the following to Obama
Mr. President, as a US citizen I too am in mourning at the series of tragedies witnessed on television and computer monitors over the last few months.
Its a reminder of similar tragedies I've seen since Whitman climbed the tower on the University of Texas campus in 1966 and took the lives of 14 children that day.
The commonality amongst each of these tragedies was mental health and not a choice of weapon.
Mentally ill citizens take lives each day in the US. What saddens me is that very little is done to curb the violence and get help and relief to these citizens who suffer a mental illness.
In the Newtown case, the government and media have gone to great lengths to discover how Lanza accessed his weapon of choice, how the weapon was secured, what kind of training he recieived in use of the weapon and the steps he took to carry out his plan.
Very little has been said about his mental condition and the help he was receiving over the last few months. Did his socio-economic position give him access to health care? What was the quality of that care? Did he have access to proper medication and monitoring of that medication's effectiveness?
So much emphasis is being placed on a weapon, it's appearance and the 2 or 3 seconds a deranged individual saves by not having to exchange clips and nothing on the care that he and millions of other citizens desperately need.
In this time of our country teetering on the fiscal cliff, spend tax dollars wisely and most importantly, effectively.
Spend the dollars helping make our country safe from otherwise productive citizens. You have the power to make a positive difference in so many lives.