Will the Chiappa rhino design take over the revolver market?
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mkiker2089
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I think the Chiappa does fill a perceived need in that it modifies the recoil without porting the barrel. I'm not aware of why a ported barrel would be bad.
Most "needs" aren't really needs until we see the fancy new product that we suddenly can't live without anymore.
The only concern I have with the gun is the price. I'm not surprised by it as they are marketing themselves as a luxury option. I suspect they could sell the gun for a lot less and probably make more through manufacturing to scale. I think their price point is a decision to give the gun a false sense of value.
That said I'll probably buy one next year if my income stays good.
Let me add that I do see a benefit for a budget revolver to use 9mm. They will appeal to the person that wants one caliber and is getting a second gun. In the high price range however I'm not sure that still works. If I'm willing to spend 800-1000 on a revolver I'd get the best ammo without regard to what my automatic uses and for a revolver rimless isn't the best choice.
Most "needs" aren't really needs until we see the fancy new product that we suddenly can't live without anymore.
The only concern I have with the gun is the price. I'm not surprised by it as they are marketing themselves as a luxury option. I suspect they could sell the gun for a lot less and probably make more through manufacturing to scale. I think their price point is a decision to give the gun a false sense of value.
That said I'll probably buy one next year if my income stays good.
Let me add that I do see a benefit for a budget revolver to use 9mm. They will appeal to the person that wants one caliber and is getting a second gun. In the high price range however I'm not sure that still works. If I'm willing to spend 800-1000 on a revolver I'd get the best ammo without regard to what my automatic uses and for a revolver rimless isn't the best choice.
The magazine article on page 3 shows that for an underbarrel revolver, the FCG could function with modified conventional revolver parts and that a silly clockwork mechanism is unnecessary. This also means that it doesn't have to have a poor trigger.
Taurus is a fairly adventurous manufacturer. I think if Taurus made an affordable underbarrel revolver and it caught on, we might eventually see a domestically produced response. Just like with the Judge and the Governor.
Taurus is a fairly adventurous manufacturer. I think if Taurus made an affordable underbarrel revolver and it caught on, we might eventually see a domestically produced response. Just like with the Judge and the Governor.
as adventurous as Taurus is, I still believe that if Chiappa didn't have an airtight patent on the "underbarrel" design, we would already see more big names doing small batches to see how it goes, at the very least high end customs. I do think in another umpteen years when the patent expires or someone can make it differently enough to circumvent the Chiappa design, we will see some other makers and I am excited to see what others could do with the design. I'll take an underbarrell R8 in .460 please....
I do disagree some with the well versed post above, yes revolvers are great at handling large and interesting cartridge's that would prove too problematic with a working combustion engine which is the semi-auto pistol..... but the stature of the Rhino along with the flattened faces of the cylinder combined with manageable recoil, makes the Rhino design more appealing to CC buyers than competitive or sport shooting, I see very few people doing speed type competitions with revolvers these day, not saying it isn't a cool thing and a great sport, just seems that combat revolver use is down and silhouette is what's in atm. so I find 9mm, 40, 38spl/357mag chambering's very appealing since that it was I would likely be using for a CC caliber due to the availability of sensible sized cartridges that are affordable for lots of practice and have the benefit of super-competitive bullet designs that all seem to do what's "needed". In all honesty, I think if the Rhino had a better sales team and really exaggerated the benefits of the design along with a 25% or more reduction in price, it COULD be a big seller. But they aren't going to toss the idea away any time soon, they seem to be embracing it and are still expanding. I am hoping the 38spl "polylite" version comes with a pricetag that would seem reasonable to average people and get the conversation about the design started up again. Let's see the moon clips get nixed, get the weight down closer to the 1# side and get the price down(even it requires cutting some corners, the Rhino's I have seen are beautifully finished wood and steel, great if you can afford that kind of detail). I would own one right now, but I want it to simply experience the design for myself and see if it's viable for ME, and for a prototype platform that I am unsure about, I can toss 7-800$ at one on a whim.
I have long wondered why the handgun hasn't been totally redesigned with using as little of the design of the "gun" as we know it. A pistol that can be gripped top and bottom with a center-line bore and some ingenious way to feed and eject the shells, I respect them more than any maker right now for having the guts to put out a totally non-traditional design and pretty much make it their flagship(okay, Tuarus did the Curve, but c'mon.....I need some sights). kudo's to Chiappa, because I haven't seen an employed gun writer that didn't woo the degree of muzzle control offered by a simple upside down barrel.
I do disagree some with the well versed post above, yes revolvers are great at handling large and interesting cartridge's that would prove too problematic with a working combustion engine which is the semi-auto pistol..... but the stature of the Rhino along with the flattened faces of the cylinder combined with manageable recoil, makes the Rhino design more appealing to CC buyers than competitive or sport shooting, I see very few people doing speed type competitions with revolvers these day, not saying it isn't a cool thing and a great sport, just seems that combat revolver use is down and silhouette is what's in atm. so I find 9mm, 40, 38spl/357mag chambering's very appealing since that it was I would likely be using for a CC caliber due to the availability of sensible sized cartridges that are affordable for lots of practice and have the benefit of super-competitive bullet designs that all seem to do what's "needed". In all honesty, I think if the Rhino had a better sales team and really exaggerated the benefits of the design along with a 25% or more reduction in price, it COULD be a big seller. But they aren't going to toss the idea away any time soon, they seem to be embracing it and are still expanding. I am hoping the 38spl "polylite" version comes with a pricetag that would seem reasonable to average people and get the conversation about the design started up again. Let's see the moon clips get nixed, get the weight down closer to the 1# side and get the price down(even it requires cutting some corners, the Rhino's I have seen are beautifully finished wood and steel, great if you can afford that kind of detail). I would own one right now, but I want it to simply experience the design for myself and see if it's viable for ME, and for a prototype platform that I am unsure about, I can toss 7-800$ at one on a whim.
I have long wondered why the handgun hasn't been totally redesigned with using as little of the design of the "gun" as we know it. A pistol that can be gripped top and bottom with a center-line bore and some ingenious way to feed and eject the shells, I respect them more than any maker right now for having the guts to put out a totally non-traditional design and pretty much make it their flagship(okay, Tuarus did the Curve, but c'mon.....I need some sights). kudo's to Chiappa, because I haven't seen an employed gun writer that didn't woo the degree of muzzle control offered by a simple upside down barrel.
Andy Blozinski
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Bumnote..how old was that article you read? Rhinos don't have a 15 pound trigger pull any more. They started making Rhinos stock with one of their trigger upgrades. I don't remember what year they started doing it, but if you get one with the fibre optic rod front sight, it's second generation and will have a lighter trigger pull and the moon clips. One thing that's screwed up is that most web sites are still using the old stock photo of the first generation, but selling the second generation. You might have to contact the seller. I was going to have Chiappa install a stage 2 trigger, but they wanted to just lighten it for me free of charge, including shipping. I haven't had it measured, but it's probably 8-9 pounds. I can cock the the hammer with my thumb now. I swapped out the rear sight for the green fibre optic rod version that's stock with the 6" model, so now my rear sight is easier to see in low light.
If you ever try one out, I found the wood grips were actually better than the rubber grips. The larger size in my hand just worked better.
If you ever try one out, I found the wood grips were actually better than the rubber grips. The larger size in my hand just worked better.
As a long time RSO I can say that I've never seen one of these on the firing line.
I've never seen one in a gun shop or anywhere.
And no one I know has ever seen one much less fired one.
No doubt that it is one of the most ridiculous looking guns that I've ever seen and it is of modern design.
Put that Rhino in a pack of Rugers and Smiths and I'll tell you what, that Rhino revolver will die of embarrassment.
I've never seen one in a gun shop or anywhere.
And no one I know has ever seen one much less fired one.
No doubt that it is one of the most ridiculous looking guns that I've ever seen and it is of modern design.
Put that Rhino in a pack of Rugers and Smiths and I'll tell you what, that Rhino revolver will die of embarrassment.
Here's a thought:
"Wouldn't life be great if nothing ever changed" and there was only one best car, pickup, rifle, handgun, rotary dial phone, 25" television that weighs 200 lbs, record player, etc...
Embrace variety, embrace the past / present and the future at least a little bit. If the future of revolvers isn't your thing, and you can't stand the thought of something new, write me a letter and tell me all about it.
"Wouldn't life be great if nothing ever changed" and there was only one best car, pickup, rifle, handgun, rotary dial phone, 25" television that weighs 200 lbs, record player, etc...
Embrace variety, embrace the past / present and the future at least a little bit. If the future of revolvers isn't your thing, and you can't stand the thought of something new, write me a letter and tell me all about it.