Why the obsession w/ bucks?

Does taste better unless you can get a solid head shot. Both will get an adrenaline shot if hit in the boiler room but only the buck will get the testerone flowing and that will contribute to the 'gamey' taste.

I'm 57, had my trophies long enough to watch them disintegrate and go into the trash. Now I just want a decent supper. This is not to say that I wouldn't take 'the buck of a lifetime' if he walked in, I just don't hunt for them anymore.
 
That's interesting Art, how different the DNR policies are from state to state.

I just read the Wisconsin (56 pages!) and they are really pushing "antlerless" deer. When one buys the license, one gets two tags, a antlerless and a buck. The buck tag can only be used during the main gun week. The antlerless can be used in pre-season and post-seasons, which they have added to try to help cull the population and get it down to 1:3 buck:doe ratio.

Additional antlerless deer tags in herd control or CWD areas are only $2 each, and there is no limit. If one gets a antlerless in a herd control area or CWD area, one "earns a buck" tag for the next year.

Wisconsin really has a deer problem. They get hammered by cars up there as often as we hit raccoons in IL. (which is a lot) Then, they have the diseased area in 1/4 of the state...
 
I hunt a private farm and we subscribe to a management program. We let young and average bucks walk; it's the only way they'll ever have a chance to become trophy deer. Most of what I bag are large, older does. We look for a sway belly, long face, and above average body. I used to haul my deer to a farm butcher who unloads hundreds of deer opening weekend. My hefty old does are easily as big as half the bucks on the ground, cetainly on par with most of the scrubby type 4 X 4 bucks. Our rifle season is during the rut, and wether or not it has anything to do with it, I've had a few bucks that had slightly more game flavor than I'd prefer. That's never happened with any of the does I've taken. For us, they have to be exceptional bucks or they get a free pass.
 
Part of it goes back to tradition. Many old-timers wouldn't shoot does because they produce next season's deer. As mentioned above, usually only the dominant bucks in an area get to breed. On big buck can sire 30-40 fawns each year. A mature doe will have twins. The math is simple, you can afford to shoot bucks but you can't shoot the does or you'll run out of deer.

There were enough subsistence hunters that local extinction of deer was common in many parts of the eastern U.S. in the early part of the 20th century. Game departments imported deer from more remote areas to help re-establish healthy populations during the middle part of the century. As part of that effort, there was a massive public-relations campaign combined with very strict game laws regarding the taking of does. In most cases, it simply wasn't allowed.

Fast-forward to today. We still have some of those laws and traditions but they are being relaxed because the deer have come back to the point that they are a nuisance in many areas. In the low-country of SC, the buck-doe harvest ratio is close to 50-50. In the upstate, it's still somewhat lower.

In my zone, hunters are allowed 4 antlerless deer tags ($5 ea.) which may be used any time and we have 11 days on which an antlerless deer may be taken without the tags. In addition, bow hunters may take does during any season.

My personal buck-doe ratio is near 50-50. I usually take two deer per year and what sex and when I take them is usually a function of how much hunting I'm expecting to be able to do that year and how many deer I'm seeing when I go.
 
You bring up a very legitimate point.

Currently, Wyoming and Montana charge outrageous non-resident fees for a mule deer BUCK license. Yet antler-less mule deer license are quite affordable. Same hunting regions yet far lower price.

Want to enjoy the vastness of hunting western states without the high cost? Go for antler-less. Take a photo or two of a big buck if you can get close enough.

Want a challenge? Leave that fast stepping MAG at home and hunt with a scoped lever action carbine. The medium speed 30-30 will topple a big muley at ranges well beyond 100 yards with power to spare.

Jack

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Good Lord, what a beautiful landscape that is, Jack! Is that your neck of the woods?

Forgive my ignorance/cityness, but what does "fast stepping" mean?

We don't have mule deer in my area. It's a shame too. We have whitetail, and most shots are under 100 yards, as they are at or near the edge of woods.
 
I don't think my wife would allow antlers or a head mount on the wall, so the only use I'd have for antlers is maybe knife handles or something.

My wife always swore there would be no antlers on the wall, except in my "office" in the basement.

I got a nice (for me) huge forked horn muley and did a Euro mount. Then I let it sit around on top of the entertainment center for 6 months. Everyone got used to seeing it, so I was able to just hang it up with no fuss....

Not sure if it was because I was soooo sneaky, or my wife just gave up:D

Back to OP - Oregon is just harder to get a doe or cow tag. Bow hunting elk, it is either sex and cows are goooood eatin'
 
davlandrum said:
My wife always swore there would be no antlers on the wall, except in my "office" in the basement.

I got a nice (for me) huge forked horn muley and did a Euro mount. Then I let it sit around on top of the entertainment center for 6 months. Everyone got used to seeing it, so I was able to just hang it up with no fuss....

My fiance's majorly freaked out by deer heads on the wall (and is still hesitant to eat venison, but she's getting better). She's already informed me that there will be NO heads hanging (other than mine), but euro mounts are ok.
 
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