Why is the Python considered to be top of the line in revolvers?

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Okay, I started an "Energizer Bunny" discussion over in the Semi Auto forum asking the same question about the 1911 so lets see how far we can get here ;) :

Why is the Python (and other medium frame Colts: Official Police, Trooper Mks 1-5, Pre-Trooper, Lawman, et al) the top of the line in revolvers? (The Rolls Royce of Revolvers)
 
A No Brainer

Just pick one up and check the balance and action against any other revolver and your question will be answered.
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Well....

....they are considered top of the line by people who have never held an L or N frame S&W of the same era. :D
 
who really likes snakes?

Because people are so easily misguided (consider election results :cool: ).

True wheelgunners invariably pick Rugers, because the gun emulates the owners skull; thick.
I have seven; my skull is extra-thick.

Oddly, the only Colt I've EVER considered WAF is the Cobra (the version with the underlug -- not the early no-lug one).
 
The Colt Python is the Rolls Royce of revolvers because:

The gun is essentially a custom built revolver.
Other revolvers are designed in such a way as the parts are "drop-in" as much as possible and require little hand fitting.

The Python, and all the older Colt's are "old school" designs from another era.
The guns MUST be totally hand assembled and fitted since all parts are made over-sized.
This requires extensive hand labor by Master fitters with many years of experience.
The Python then gets MORE custom hand fitting and polishing to give a even more refined action.

The old Colt action is an extraordinarily intricate, complicated design, that cost much more simply to build, much less finish to Python levels.

Other brands can be assembled by much less experienced people, and there isn't much fitting and tuning needed.

Next, is the exterior finish.
When a S&W or Ruger is being boxed for shipment, the Python is still being hand polished by highly trained polishers with many years of hands-on experience.

The Python is polished on custom Colt-made leather covered polishing wheels by people who were started out on Colt's cheaper guns.
After years of experience, only the very BEST of them were allowed to polish the Python.

The final polish on the Python used a media the consistency of flour.
This lengthy polishing process was used on all Python's including the nickel and stainless guns.

Reasons for Colt's reputation for being the most accurate
brand, and the Python's reputation for being the most accurate of all revolvers, involve the old-style Colt "Bank Vault" lockup, Colt's superior quality barrels, and their faster rifling twist.

The Python went even farther with an expensive tapered-bore barrel, which was finished with Colt's mysterious "Silver Ball" treatment.

In short, The Python is very much like ordering a true custom 1911 from a maker like Wilson, Brown, or one of the other top custom builders.

What you're getting is a revolver on which expensive hand labor is lavished, and on which everything possible is done to insure it's the finest quality and most accurate production revolver possible.

Hand labor, especially highly experienced labor is NOT cheap.
The kind of people capable of fitting and tuning the action or polishing the finish to the level the Python is, have many years on the job, and they don't work for minimum wage.

The difference is like buying a Seiko watch or buying a Rolex.
One is a common, mass produced, unrefined watch, and the other is a hand made labor of love that takes a year to build.

Hand made is higher quality than mass produced.

Why does a Rolls Royce cost more than a Chevy?
 
Having owned 2 I can answer your question

They are becouse they ARE.
Colts out of the box in the 70's and 80's had the best triggers found. I like and owned Rugers but to compair a ruger trigger to a colt is like compairing a Pinto to a Lincoln contental. .
 
As nice as Pythons are they are not worth twice as much as a Smith 586/686 which are more rugged and have excellent DA trigger pulls.
 
Dfariswheel summed it up well.

But when it comes down to it, nothing looks like a Python. It's a work of art from another era that also happens to be a beautifully functioning handgun of the highest quality.

Rolls Royce? I've always thought of it like owning a classic Ferrari from the same era. The 275GTB/4 comes to mind. :p
 

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Don't get me wrong...I love Smiths...obviously by virtue of my screen name...but Pythons out-of-the-box are generally way smoother than Smiths. That's not to say that Smiths ( 19's, 586's, etc. ) can't be improved dramatically...they definitely can! A lot of dry-firing and an action job can make a Smith 'SUPER SWEET'. I have a 1969 vintage Model 19 that I would put up against any Python...any day of the week. BUT, it has had in the neighborhood of 10,000 rounds put through it...AND it has had some very masterful work done on it in Springfield. There are some exceptions to the rule, but Smiths generally cannot match Pythons out of the box. Just my two cents.
 
I like Rugers, too. But they aren't even close to being in the ball park with Pythons or Smiths...at least as far as trigger smoothness is concerned. They are VERY strong, though...and I have never seen a Ruger get beaten out of time.
 
butbutbut.....

I thought Colts got hand-fit because their machinists just put holes and cuts willy-nilly?

Oh, I been wrong before :barf:

I had a S&W M67 that I would (have -- got stolen) put up against any revolver.


All kidding aside, the Python has achieved cult status (was gonna make the pun, but...) deservedly, with a fine 'feel' for many (Me? Sucks for me.), and a finish that has to be seen to understand.
 
Dfariswheel

Well said!!! Thank you! I'm going to print out your post for future reference.

It's funny how some folks get their balls in a uproar thinking they need to defend their favorite revolver. Colts aren't the Best! Colts are the Best of the Best!

My best .44 Magnum is a SW 29-2. I don't know why but the action on this baby comes very close to my Python. Cock (like butter) the hammer, and I get 3 clicks back to full. Maybe someone can explain this. I don't know why.

There are allot of truths some of us don't care to face, but the reality is Old Colts are the norm current day manufacturers will never match because of costs.

My Smith Wesson 29-2
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GP-100
Alaskan (on the way)
SW629MG
SW29-2
SW625jm
SW 66 (4")
SW 66 (4")
SW 66 (2 1/2")
SW 66 (2 1/2")
SW 34
Ruger Vaquero
Beretta Stampede
Taurus 85 UL
Taurus M85 (3")
Ruger Security Six
Colt Python
Colt Lawman MKlll

Now do I appear bias???? ;)
 
Dfariswheel >> Ditto! The Python is THE top of the line 357 factory production revolver. No question about it. Pick one up and compare it to a new factory S&W. Even a novice can tell the difference if you work the actions and compare. Most of the other Colts mentioned are not quite up to Python standards, but are good to very good to sometimes great.

Bullrock: Yeah, you have a bias. But why are you buying Rugers now?
 
I like S&W guns just haven't bought any yet....owned several Colt revolvers...will try shooting a Python someday and find out myself...
 
I've had a couple of Pythons and sold/traded 'em. I'll stick with S&W K and L frame 357's - perhaps not as pretty to some but in my experience the Smiths are stronger, more reliable, easier to shoot DA accurately. Dennis
 
The level of fit and finish on the Python is top rate. They are also usually very accurate. Some S&W fans complain about the Colt trigger system but I use guns from both Springfield and Hartford without much thought about the matter. You have to decide for yourself if they are worth the price. I have two.
 
22-rimfire

I've had my Rugers for some time now. I'm buying the Alaskan for hunting. Fall is almost here, ya no! Besides my Python is too pretty to take out into the wild.

What if I'm attacked by a bear, and the bear spots my Python and eats it. I don't even have insurance for that and the loss of my Python would ruin my life forever... :D
 
A nicely blued Python is a pretty gun. Few better.
Myself, I prefer the S&W 686.
A couple of things about the Python that I don't care for:
1. The long trigger pull
2. The cylinder release, it's awkward.
3. Those I have used had a disturbing tendency to go out of tune quite often.

But for a 'show pony' wall or desk ornament, they are the best!
 
:barf: Python

Python isn't the best in my book. Had 3 of them and they ALL came with problems from the factory. Had 80's, 90's and 00's vinatges. They all sucked. The Python Elite jammed rock solid at a whopping 7th round. NEVER had that problem with any S&W for half the money.

Are they smooth? Yup!

Are they durable? Nope!

If what you mean by best is MOST EXPENSIVE then you have a point. They are the BEST rip off around $ for $. Guaranteed to go out of time in no time at all. A smooth action is not the best. I would take a 686 any day over a Python and I do not like S&W.

I personally have never met anyone that actually used their Pythons and were happy with them. Call most gun dealers and ask about a possible trade in on a Python and chances are you will here "Is it a good one, it's not outa time is it?", next you will hear "What's your insult level?" because the lowball trade offer is coming next.

Want to talk 1911's and I'll still give Colt a nod. Not a Hell Yeah, but a nod. Decent guns if your willing to pay the tax.

Anaconda... $1,000 for a 44 that doesn't do anything better than a SRH or a 629 sounds like a hump job to me. Had one, 00 vintage. BBL canted from factory. Yippie for me. Sold it, bought a Ruger 44(X2), 45(X2), 454, 357(X3)... Lost count... all run 100% out of the box.

Trooper MKIII... At least they can be had cheap! Probably because they were a cheap alternative. Bought a super clean 70's vintage. Every couple cylinders it would get hot and JAM! And JAM! And JAM!... In Colt lingo it's called super close tolerances and should be construed as a sign of quality... BS in my book... Sold that one too.

Lastly, I am by no means an expert and all results may vary from user to user. Let me stress USER. Again, I AM NO EXPERT but have had a few guns go through my hands over the years. A safe guesstimate would be 100+. In those years I have owned most every brand of gun from here to eternity and less a Ruger Single Six that had an out of spec loading gate(Which Ruger sent me the part and I installed myself FREE of charge) every gun has been 100% from the box except my good ole Colts. Sold them all except the Gold Cup. It's an 00 vintage and ran perfect from the word go and I USE it too. I still get that warm fuzzy feeling when I hear the Colt name but now I only get it when the gun actually works and I can see that it works prior to purchase. The "prior" part is what keeps me from buying most Colts I run into these days since most dealers have some insane inclination that I will actually continue to be had by the same ol song and dance from a sub par manufacturer that thinks I still can't live with out their cut rate merchandise at top dollar prices.

My .02

Let the flames fly.
 
"I am by no means an expert and all results may vary from user to user"

That's true. Some time back I gave my father a brand new $1600 Cooper Custom Classic .22. He was so moved by the gift he offered me his favorite Python. I turned him down because it's his favorite gun, but I came very close to accepting it because it's one of my favorites, too.

I did tell him not to ever get rid of it because I do want it someday. ;)

Come to think of it, it had to go back to the factory when new. No big deal, stuff happens, it gets fixed, YMMV, LSMFT.

John...50 years and counting and I've never owned a perfect gun.
 
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