why is Rossi so underrated

I have some news for you: Brazil has the seventh largest economy in the world. Larger than, say, Canada, Russia or Austraila.
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China is way bigger and look at the crap they produce. Size isn't a guarantee of quality.
 
I have some news for you: Brazil has the seventh largest economy in the world. Larger than, say, Canada, Russia or Austraila.
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Whatever you do, don't confuse a good argument with facts. ;)

China is way bigger and look at the crap they produce. Size isn't a guarantee of quality.
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Some people would say the exact same thing about stuff made in this country. Drop by the Smith & Wesson board sometime and read some of the rants there.
 
I've been tempted by Rossi lately. While this is the handgun forum, I want a new 16" lever gun in .357. The closest thing I've found from a "top tier" manufacturer is the Big Boy Carbine from Henry, which is heavier, holds one less round, and costs three hundred dollars more. If they released their Big Boy Steel in a Carbine, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. Until then, I've got my eye out for an R92...
 
Doc, it sounds like you got a typical Rossi there. Don't be afraid to shoot it either. The 158 grain 357 mag loads aren't bad in it either. That grip absorbs a bunch of it. And, it's enough grip to hold on to well.

I'm an American made kind of guy. But, when considering all things when buying the Rossi's I own, i just couldn't make myself buy a gun for 2.5 times as much as one of them, after shooting a friends Rossi 7 years ago..

You'll really like that gun. And, it will serve you well. God Bless
 
I work in a shop. On a CNC the production quality from shift to shift operator to operator can vary a lot. On a manual machine the differences can be unbelievable.
Taurus and Rossi were/are late to the CNC conversion. I think both product lines use CNC, but not sure to what extent. They didn't hire the highly skilled machinists the reputable US companies did and they had reliability problems.
You might ge a great part at the end of one shift, but the next shift is lazy and doesn't change an insert or dress a wheel until they absolutely have to so the parts are terrible. When you buy a product you don't know which you get. If there are multiple operations anyone along the way can wreck the whole thing. I have worked on several parts before where the engineering/design was perfect, but the end product had issues and everyone involved knew the issues could be traced back to one machinist who was a lazy slob. Thankfully I now work for a company where that isn't tolerated b/c of the critical importance of the parts we make.
 
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China is way bigger and look at the crap they produce. Size isn't a guarantee of quality.

Some people would say the exact same thing about stuff made in this country.
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IMO, you are overgeneralizing about "Chinese quality." If Atwoods or some other US company signs a contract for crate loads of $3 tools, Chinese factories will turn them out. And they will be very low quality tools that only work a few times. But the Chinese produce the quality requested. They have the capability to make things 100% as good as our factories. Their military weapons are getting better and better. So is their spacecraft. We will wake up some day to the Chinese walking on the moon. Even going their own way and building a permanent base there.

Don't underestimate the value of a massive population and strong economic growth year over year over year. I'm not that worried about them from a military point of view... but they will pass us and become the #1 economy in the not too distant future. Hopefully we will find a way to be partners.
 
Updating my last post, it looks like Henry is releasing Big Boy Steel Carbines later this year. My interest in Rossi just vaporized! :eek:
 
Buddy had one in the 80's and it was a total POS---he found someone to buy it and neither one of us has looked at anything Rossi since.

Way back then when we were young, our hard earned dollar was a little more hard earned--that Rossi left quite an impression.

Could care less about any reported turn around with the company and will buy what I know is good.
 
From all of the posts on this about
Rossi, I've found that the old Rossi's
We're pretty poor & the CS terrible
and that the new Rossi's are made
Much better and most owners like
them. It takes years to negate
Bad reviews & it takes one bad
review to kill a great reputation on
a well liked weapon.
I think I'm over simpllifing this.
But, there are too many good
reviews on Rossi to pass it up
Thanks everyone for ALL THEIR
POSTS. I got the info that I
wanted good or bad. This is
the best Forum, on line, that
I've found for great info on guns.
Respectfully,
Doc
 
Rossi quality

I have posted here from time to time of my 4" 971 that I bought at least 20 years ago.I paid something like $210 out the door and if it had problems whoever had it first fixed them.The trigger job is so light the weight of the gun balanced on your trigger finger will fire it in single action.It is supremely accurate and has handled anything I have fed it.Still has the wood grips on it and to look at its bottom the are cut slightly off center but this doesn't affect its handling at all.
 
One can banter the good and bad of Rossi products all day however i have had the misfortune of many friends bringing their revolvers and lever rifles to me to " just make it work". The machine work on the interior is poorly done ( if they now use CNC equipment i have not seen it) and requires much time to smooth and polish parts and frames. Some of the rifle feed rails were the most poorly made parts and as a result feeding was "iffy" much of the time, metal was also very soft on many firearms. On the exterior the Rossi team must have hired the buffers from hell to do their polishing resulting in wavy metal rounded corners and dished out screw holes.
All of my observations may not apply to current production as i would not accept another ""just make it work" project from friend or foe. I purchased one of the Braztech Rossi 92's about five years ago and after replacing the idiot safety with a plug and the plastic follower with a Winchester steel part and finally stoning the interior parts the rifle performs well for the plinking i do with it. Exterior fit and finish is much improved on this vintage rifle so maybe there is hope, but I would not take on another "make it work" project.
 
One can banter the good and bad of Rossi products all day however i have had the misfortune of many friends bringing their revolvers and lever rifles to me to " just make it work". The machine work on the interior is poorly done ( if they now use CNC equipment i have not seen it) and requires much time to smooth and polish parts and frames. Some of the rifle feed rails were the most poorly made parts and as a result feeding was "iffy" much of the time, metal was also very soft on many firearms. On the exterior the Rossi team must have hired the buffers from hell to do their polishing resulting in wavy metal rounded corners and dished out screw holes.
All of my observations may not apply to current production as i would not accept another ""just make it work" project from friend or foe. I purchased one of the Braztech Rossi 92's about five years ago and after replacing the idiot safety with a plug and the plastic follower with a Winchester steel part and finally stoning the interior parts the rifle performs well for the plinking i do with it. Exterior fit and finish is much improved on this vintage rifle so maybe there is hope, but I would not take on another "make it work" project.
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Accurately and succinctly nails the "the deal with Rossi's" right on the head--+1
 
Idek nailed it. It can take a long time to overcome a poor reputation.
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I have several Rossi pistols and can't say I ever had a bad one.
I still own the 1st Rossi I ever bought back in the 80's a snuby 44 spl in stainless.

I am old enough to remember the days when Ruger was consider a cheap crappy pistol; now your hear them spoken in the same sentence as S&W and Colt.
 
Went to the range again today and put the Rossi thru the paces. I have a pic of how I did at 25 yards but can't figure out how to post it. Oldtimers. The Range Master grinned and when I went back out after my session, he pulled me aside and showed me his carry. Yep, it was mine but in all stainless instead of blued.
I was firing Speer 135 gr 38 spc P+ and Remington 125 gr 38 specP+ ammo.
The full boat 357 mag ammo I shot stung a bit, but in a pinch I doubt that I would feel it. I'm not an expert on these matters. All I know is how it works for me and how it handles. I don't buy guns for resale and I am not a collector.
Doc
 
Picked this up today. Haven't fired it yet, or even cleaned it up. It was raining so I only took the one picture.

Rossi 851, six-shot, 38 Special, 4" barrel.

 
I really can't comment on Rossi. But, a friend had a Tarus and a Charter Arms. Neither gun was nearly as well made as a S&W or Ruger. When I purchase a gun, I expect it to last without having to fix it(springs ect, are normal wear parts) or deal with problems that should not exist in a gun that is for sale new. I understand every manufacturer has issues and occasionally a lemon gets through QC. I do a lot of research before putting out money for a gun. Rossi is a brand I will not be purchasing, this is due to the problems associated with them, some people like them. That's fine, personally I will buy what I feel I can trust.
 
I really can't comment on Rossi. But, a friend had a Tarus and a Charter Arms. Neither gun was nearly as well made as a S&W or Ruger. When I purchase a gun, I expect it to last without having to fix it(springs ect, are normal wear parts) or deal with problems that should not exist in a gun that is for sale new. I understand every manufacturer has issues and occasionally a lemon gets through QC. I do a lot of research before putting out money for a gun. Rossi is a brand I will not be purchasing, this is due to the problems associated with them, some people like them. That's fine, personally I will buy what I feel I can trust.
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Exactly. Who here would carry a Hi-Point? They have a decent rep and a lifetime warranty!
 
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