Why is my XD 9 going auto rapid fire ?????

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handgunfan101

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Purchased an XD 9 compact (actually traded an old p38 replica and 100.00) and it jammed a few times FTF so i changed to WWB and it worked fine. Yesterday while at the range i pulled the trigger and it rang our 4 shots.

bang slide comes back and every time it returns forward it shoots again. bang bang bang bang then it jams. I can feel the trigger click and each time it fires.

I reload the clip with 3 shots and it does the same thing. I talked to the gun shop and they have there smith looking at it today. What is wrong any ideas?
 
Good that you got it to a smith asap. I have heard around the net that the BATFE will actually try to attack you on the grounds that you have a machine gun for this kind of thing. We all know that information is worth what you pay for it sometimes, so take that with a grain of salt, but I'm glad you got it to the smith quickly. Not worth getting thrown in jail over it, even if it is by some unConstitutional agency out to screw people over.
 
just got off of the phone with the store. I guess the SMITH fired it with the same resault. They called it slam fire. They pulled it apart and noticed that the seer is bad as well as the striker is pushed forward just enough to allow slam fire???

not sure as i have no idea about the parts above but they have a new one i can have to replace this unit. I asked if it was tampered with and they said they dont think so but it was sent in by a distributor that they will be giving a call to and receiving credit for.

The only thing that they can think of is that the distributor got this unit back and instead of returning it to SA they just sent it to another FFL.
 
Daekar
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Posts: 299 Good that you got it to a smith asap. I have heard around the net that the BATFE will actually try to attack you on the grounds that you have a machine gun for this kind of thing. We all know that information is worth what you pay for it sometimes, so take that with a grain of salt, but I'm glad you got it to the smith quickly. Not worth getting thrown in jail over it, even if it is by some unConstitutional agency out to screw people over.
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Ask David Olofson if it should be take with a grain of salt.

© 2008 WorldNetDaily.com


A drill instructor in the National Guard has been convicted in a Wisconsin federal court of illegally transferring a machine gun after a rifle he loaned to a student malfunctioned, setting off three shots before jamming.

The verdict of guilty on one count in the case against David Olofson was confirmed yesterday by the clerk's office in the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Wisconsin.


It gets even worse...


AUSA Haanstad claimed the law does not exempt a malfunction. He claims that it states "any weapon that shoots more than once without manual reloading, per function of the trigger is a machinegun". To clarify when I was on the stand, I asked him "Are you saying if I take my Great Granddaddy's double barrel out and I pull one trigger and both barrels go off, its a machinegun?". He went back to the law (United States Code, Section 5845 (b)), and claims "any weapon that shoots..."



http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=810186
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Simple! It’s called interpretation of the law. Like “shall not be infringed” means it’s ok to restrict, interfere, delay the purchase of and you can’t have that because it looks scary. :(
 
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Give me a break with regards to post #6. What a bunch of fertilizer that is. Oh my god it must be true I read it on the INTERNET, it couldn't be wrong:eek::rolleyes:
 
Don P said:
Give me a break with regards to post #6. What a bunch of fertilizer that is. Oh my god it must be true I read it on the INTERNET, it couldn't be wrong
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Actually, Don, the Olofson case is well documented and easily available online. The poor guy went to prison because his rifle broke. It's been well covered in the traditional media.
 
I have heard that there was a bit more to that case. It wasn't just wear or some accidental malfunction; the owner had worked on the gun deliberately trying to make it fire full auto.

Jim
 
Thank you Paw Paw.

Ignorance may be bliss, but Google can be one’s friend.

I followed this case from shortly after Mr. Olofson arrest. I can assure everyone the only fertilizer involved in the case was BATF&E and the judge.

For the naysayers and the I heard from a friend who's brother's girlfriend’s cousin’s brother-in-law told him crowd; the company that built the rifle had issued a recall because of rifles going full auto. It wasn’t caused by ware it was defective new parts. The recall was posted, by the company, on the internet and sent out to their distributers. BATF&E had the internet notification pulled (I saw it with my own eyes shortly, I mean within one day, of it being pulled). The defense attorney tried to get a copy introduced into evidence and the judge denied it. I did not glean this from internet scuttlebutt I saw and read it in the court documents.
 
Good news / Bad news

Bad is i wont get a new gun until after the Holiday :(

Good news is that the owner called the distributor and the Manufacturer to report it. He was asked to send in pics which his smith did and it appears there was no tampering with the firearm to allow it to shoot and slam fire. The distributor sent out a new gun to my LGS to replace mine. The Manufacturer rep called the Store Owner and told him they apologize for the problem ***BUT*** said it was not their fault it may have been a send back to distributor problem and there was a mix up on their end.

I am being sent swag in the mail for my troubles. I was told by the store owner that was relaying a message from the Manufacturer and the Distributor that i am not in any sort of trouble. It was a MALFUNCTION DUE TO AN ASSEMBLY GLITCH. I reported it right after the malfunction happened to the place i purchased it (i was at their indoor range after the purchase) they followed all of the proper steps to report the malfunction. The firearm HAS TO BE DESTROYED via state and federal regulation it can not be repaired.

I have no idea why it cant but thats what i am being told. So all in all after reading the response about it being a crime i was pretty worried about jail :)
 
THIS is why I don't like fully tensioned striker firing mechanisms such as the XD's. From what you relayed it sounds like 2 of the 3 internal safety features failed. :eek:
 
I think im going back to my 1911's not saying it cant happen with them just saying i have had better luck with them than the xd compact style guns. I am going to talk to the owner and see if he can or is willing to let me trade in and pay the difference towards a new 1911
 
no worries my friend :) it just amazes me at how liability is doled out and seems to always find its way back to the honest guy. Obviously not in all cases but its my luck if somethings going to go bad i always fall in it waist deep.
 
Glad it worked out for you, but never post anything about a firearm going full auto on the internet. Fix it or get it fixed and let that be the end of it. The anonymity here is not much of a barrier to anyone wanting to follow up on it.
 
The poor guy went to prison because his rifle broke.
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I read the entire thread over on arfcom where the "poor guy" told his own story. The characterization in the quote is completely and totally inaccurate. For what it's worth, he didn't even raise the "rifle broke" defense until after he tried his initial tactic (which he claimed to have used before in federal court, by the way) of trying to get the case thrown out because the feds didn't have jurisdiction. That's right, his initial strategy was to claim that what he had done to the rifle didn't matter because the feds didn't have jurisdiction to charge him.

And in case you missed the underlined section in the paragraph above, he admitted on arfcom that this wasn't the first time he'd been charged with breaking a federal crime.

Furthermore, strictly speaking, he wasn't nailed for HAVING a "broken" rifle that fired full auto, he was fired for TRANSFERRING a "broken" rifle that fired full auto.

The case is FAR more complicated than the way it's been popularly presented, and Olofson is far from an innocent victim who "went to prison because his rifle broke."
 
John, your first mistake is saying “he” did. He didn’t… his lawyer did. I got fired on a misdemeanor years ago because I was stupid enough to believe a lawyer knew when he was doing and I followed his advice.

The BATF&E made the case complicated. It was actually very simple. Olympic Arms sold some defective firearms. They admitted their mistake and sent out a recall. Mr. Olofson loaned the firearm to someone and it fired a three round burst. The judge would not allow his attorney to submit the letter of recall into evidence. BATF&E tested the firearm and it WOULD NOT go full auto. The rifle was sent back to the lab where they kept trying and kicking up the load until it finally doubled…. ONCE.

There should never have been a case. The manufacturer had admitted the firearm was defective from the factory and the BATF&E and the judge railroaded the man.
 
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