Why Is Border Security a Political Football?

The Republicans don't want to offend big business, which wants cheap labor. The Democrats think the new immigrants will vote Democratic if they get citizenship and they also don't want to offend their bleeding-heart left wing.

Result is that nothing gets done.
 
The letter was not supposed to be bipartisan, it was an object lesson to the President that his own Republican support has serious problems with the immigration bill. This was not meant to be a message from Democrats, it was a message from conservative Republicans.
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I'd agree with you if this had some party leadership involved. Look again over the list of those that signed this..
 
Only when you have moral standards within those corporations and they
have the best interest of America included with their business practice.
Greed Mr Alaska will kill the best of systems ours included.
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Capitilism is greed. Economics 101.

Socialism is altruistic. Socialism is a failure. History 101.

Social democracy? That can work. See Finland/Sweden. You like that kind of nannying?

WildletsallbeconsistentAlaska
 
I understand that issue, but in this case I am focused on any terrorist that come into our country because we have open borders.
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Oh. Well, same answer really. It's hard. I guess the massive take-over immigration bill in the Senate right now might be part of the answer to securing the borders. You can't do it without inconveniencing the Mexican inrushers, so first you give them legal status and then you try to close the border to everybody else. Otherwise, trying to pick a few Middle Easterners with big plans out of 500,000 Mexicans per year is undoable.
 
Otherwise, trying to pick a few Middle Easterners with big plans out of 500,000 Mexicans per year is undoable.
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Typical OBL response. Not talking about picking anyone out. I am talking about closing...securing our borders. Only allowing people to enter through defined check points so you have a chance to review who is coming across. This does not now, or ever has depended on some immigration bill to implement. This is not an issue of can you secure the border, it is an issue of wanting to secure the border.


I am not against a reasonable immigration bill. But people need to stop thinking we are naive by telling us that the only way to secure our borders is by passing some flawed immigration bill. Border security is a stand-alone issue.
 
I am not against a reasonable immigration bill. But people need to stop thinking we are naive by telling us that the only way to secure our borders is by passing some flawed immigration bill. Border security is a stand-alone issue.
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Ditto: This immigration bill does nothing other then provide for wealthy corporations and the Mexican government, if we "wanted" to secure the borders it could be done with in weeks, this administration appears not to desire that but would rather secure the borders of Iraq.
1-secure the borders.
2-arrest and fine all employers hiring illegals
3-then we can talk about worker programs.
 
1-secure the borders.
2-arrest and fine all employers hiring illegals
3-then we can talk about worker programs.
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Simple and straight forward. It is insulting to the American people that Bush has not done item 1 so he can save it as a carrot to pass his & Kennedy's immigration bill. BTW, is that the same Kennedy that wants to take our gun rights away? Just checking.
 
Oh, I'm not for the immigration bill. But that's one argument for it: Reduce the secret inflow. It would be easier to "secure the border" if the brick-layers and carpenters came up I-35 via Greyhound and only the terrorists walked across the Rio Grande.


But, yeah, there are reasons for opposing amnesty. There's a black market for cheap labor which is caused by wage controls, income redistribution, and regulation. The illegals "solve" the problem. As long as they're illegal, the rules don't apply to them. But if they're legalized, their wages become artificially inflated by law, employers have to pay payroll taxes and do paperwork, and they're demotivated from working by taxpayer-funded handouts--the exact things that created the labor black market in the first place. Solution? Get another batch of illegals from somewhere (presumably the same place). And the drive for amnesty starts over for that batch.


BTW: What's an OBL response? Osama Bin Laden?
 
I noticed neither of my esteemed senators (R) signed that letter to El Diablo Presidente.:barf:

I hope Uncle Ted and his corrupt kid both get their arses indicted.:barf::barf::mad:

Capitalism is greed. Economics 101.
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True, but folks exercising it should have some morals and ethics.;)
 
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Capitalism is greed. Economics 101.

True, but folks exercising it should have some morals and ethics.
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Yes, excellent you state that, capitalism is great but without morals and
ethics it can fail, profit at any cost to your family/country is dangerous
and simply wrong.
 
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