why does everyone hate s&w lock

The question was asked "Why does everyone hate the S&W lock?"

It is just people stating their opinions on the subject.


No pugilism involved.

Hugs optional :cool:
 
I would bet that the "anti-lock" group consists mainly of people who have not owned a Smith with the lock, and who are only jumping on the bandwagon of paranoia and fear, generated by those with an axe to grind.
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History has already proven that any locking or safe storage requirement is simply another incremental step to the prohibition on handguns. Look at the UK. Look at history. Those that do not learn from history are doomed it repeat it, an deservedly so.
 
I would bet that the "anti-lock" group consists mainly of people who have not owned a Smith with the lock, and who are only jumping on the bandwagon of paranoia and fear, generated by those with an axe to grind.
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...and you would lose that bet. Thanks for playing, however. :)

What, no witty response as to how you'd suggest plugging the hole in the frame if you were to "easily remove" the ugly lock? :confused:
 
I recently took delivery of a new Model 331-1 (the dash 1 means with the new integral lock I guess) and I just made sure it was unlocked and put the danged key into the box and stored the box as I do with the locks and keys for all new acquisitions. I will not use the durned thing and ignore it. The gun has an excellent SA trigger, but DA trigger is pretty stiff, but I think it is more of the fact that it is an AirLite Ti than due to the internal locking mechanism.

If I am worried about making a gun "safe: it goes into the safe.
Regards,
Rich
 
What, no witty response as to how you'd suggest plugging the hole in the frame if you were to "easily remove" the ugly lock?
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Take it to a gunsmith. Doesn't need wit.

The simple solution is what Retiredsquid said. Just don't use the damn thing, and go on about your life.

I'm more pissed about them hardly ever putting wood on their revolvers.......to me THAT's cheesy!

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PC 625 with lock. Never used it, never will, and it no longer even crosses my mind.

686 Plus. Same story.

Who cares about it. Both of these guns had great triggers right out of the box, and have sweetened up nicely with use.


Spend your time worrying about the lock. Miss out on some great guns. Buy Taurus revolvers.

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Many people don't want to pay for something they will not use. Much less pay to have something they don't want in the first place removed.

ARUID
 
Simply put,


If I physically wanted to lock my revolver, make it incapable of operation, then I'd put a padlock across the topstrap of the revolver. Couldn't even close the cylinder that way and have the stupid thing loaded.


Little internal lock through the frame=STUPID

I'd rather not have anyone in my family try to rely on one of those rediculous things or try to remember if they remembered the keys to their revolver. If the cylinder is closed then I want to assume that it's ready for action, if the cylinder is open with a padlock across the topstrap then it's abundantly clear that it's disabled. The internal lock creates a bad situation, in my book atleast.




Then there's the traditionalist in me, I just plain hate it on principle alone. Ofcourse all my S&W revolvers are a minimum of 20 years old and likely all my future purchases will be of models of similar age if not older.



There is a part of me that downright hates that S&W is catering to people who actually want these features in their guns. I mean crap, when will people educate themselves to the point that they will see past the need for such a thing in a firearm? A freaking cable lock is often enough to disable 3-4 varieties of firearms from bolt action rifle, to shotgun, to semiauto handgun, to revolver. To sit there and tell people that this revolver is suddenly more desirable because it's got an internal locking gizmo in it, it's nothing more than marketing hype for people who are likely relatively uneducated about firearms or their use.

In the back of my mind, this quote from k5blazer on page 1 is what I keep thinking and fearing.

One of the things that bothers me about these locks is that some people will see them as an excuse to forgo firearms training. The lock will give them a false sense of security. 'It's not loaded'! will be replaced with 'It's locked!'
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Not that people have to have a love affair with firearms inorder to own them, but I'd atleast like to think that they have half a functioning brain cell up there that can see alternatives to the method that is provided.


I similarly hate the Remington locking shrouds on Rem700s, Remington safeties on the 870, and the HK USP lock in the main spring housing.
 
RogerC,

Take it to a gunsmith.
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And how is this gunsmith going to remove a hole in the frame? :confused:



PS: You're right; the lack of nice wood grips is cheesy. So is the cost-effective brushed stainless finish that has replaced the bright polish or bead-blast finish of a few years ago. So is the paucity of blued revolvers in the lineup.

PPS: I guess the only reason I hate the dumb-looking cheesy crossbolt safety on my post-1992 Winchester '94 is because of my secret hatred of Winchester's politics... :rolleyes:
 
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