Why do you carry?
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I also carry for most if not all the reasons listed above and many more not listed. Given these ultra important reasons that we all have listed a second question jumps out at me. It also happens to be my followup question.
Why do some folks voluntarily carry mouse gun caliber handguns?
To me this is contradictory to my reason for carrying. I carry to protect me and mine from evil only to willingly choose a caliber that hasn't the ability to do what needs to be done to reliably stop an aggressor. Not that it can't mind you. A well placed round or 2 or 3 will do the trick however history has taught us that well placed hits are very difficult under the pressures associated with a gunfight. Not to mention a moving fighting target. We know that blood loss is the only way to stop an aggressor short of a hit to the upper spinal cord or brain.....that is if the BG doesn't give up. Still given these facts many of us not only voluntarily carry the micro 22's and 25's but they justify them so that they don't feel under armed which causes others follow suit.
Some use statistics that suggest that any gun is enough "MOST" of the time. While I agree "most" is not all. Most folks get through life without needing a gun.........not all. Heck I'm statistically unlikely to need the gun I'm carrying already yet I still carry.
Do you guys think it is contradictory?
Why do some folks voluntarily carry mouse gun caliber handguns?
To me this is contradictory to my reason for carrying. I carry to protect me and mine from evil only to willingly choose a caliber that hasn't the ability to do what needs to be done to reliably stop an aggressor. Not that it can't mind you. A well placed round or 2 or 3 will do the trick however history has taught us that well placed hits are very difficult under the pressures associated with a gunfight. Not to mention a moving fighting target. We know that blood loss is the only way to stop an aggressor short of a hit to the upper spinal cord or brain.....that is if the BG doesn't give up. Still given these facts many of us not only voluntarily carry the micro 22's and 25's but they justify them so that they don't feel under armed which causes others follow suit.
Some use statistics that suggest that any gun is enough "MOST" of the time. While I agree "most" is not all. Most folks get through life without needing a gun.........not all. Heck I'm statistically unlikely to need the gun I'm carrying already yet I still carry.
Do you guys think it is contradictory?
Except we all make trade-offs in life, right? For you (I will take a guess) the trade-off stopped at .45 caliber. But someone who insists on carrying a pair of Uzi's could say that you didn't do all you could. Someone who carries a .44 magnum, a Bowie knife and took the time to master the arts of kung fu and Filipino knife fighting could say you didn't do all you could. You see, we each must weigh the odds of ever needing a gun and in what circumstance, the benefits of carrying what we choose, and the drawbacks of our choices to arrive at a decision we deem appropriate for ourselves.
So no, it doesn't seem contradictory to me at all. We must live with what we choose. What seems contradictory is when people don't think about their safety in today's world, and what they can do to protect themselves. But as far as what they decide, as long as they thought about it, and even if I strenuously disagree that their choice is adequate, I say more power to them.
i've had guns pulled on me twice in my entire life but that was enough to make me never want to feel that way again.i now carry a 5 shot snub nosed 45 long colt.its light enough to feel like a 38 and yet enough to blast open some punks chest if they ever ever decide to do something that stupid.the 1st time i was so scared i could'nt have acted in time.the 2nd i saw what was about to happen and was prepared but that was enough to make them leave.i only carry when fishing in remote areas and if i'm forced to go into the inner city for any reason which is rare thankfully.another reason for a carry license is because laws about transporting a gun even just to the range were getting rediculous.so i just got a license so i can just lay them in my back seat with my ammo and go to the range without the worry of transporting a gun while obaying all the laws.
fbrown333@suddenlink
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After staring down the muzzle of one and being robbed I made a choice at that point, plus I am not a big guy and am partially disabled and cannot phyically roll around on the ground fighting with some one.
After staring down the muzzle of one and being robbed I made a choice at that point, plus I am not a big guy and am partially disabled and cannot phyically roll around on the ground fighting with some one.
Spamanon,
I simply require my carry gun to be able to do what is necessary to stop an attacker should they not give up at the sight of my gun.
IMO the contradiction is both deciding to carry for self defense only to carry a gun not completely capable and deciding there is a need to carry a gun then selectively carrying more and less powerful weapons or no weapon at all.
I simply require my carry gun to be able to do what is necessary to stop an attacker should they not give up at the sight of my gun.
IMO the contradiction is both deciding to carry for self defense only to carry a gun not completely capable and deciding there is a need to carry a gun then selectively carrying more and less powerful weapons or no weapon at all.
Moe Howard
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Just in case that time were to ever arise that my life or my families life is being threatened I at least want a fighting chance. There are no guarantees but if you have the tools necessary to defend yourself the odds are a little more even.
Harley User
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+1 to all your answers and mine is just as simple as
to protect myself & family from the Bg's.
to protect myself & family from the Bg's.
Breadslinger
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For me it was a social issue, not a political one. I carry not because I have the right to carry; but rather that I have the right to live.
I like #20fan's post..... something I have always thought about in addition to my own family.... for those who can't or won't carry.
I carry because I see it as my right and responsibility as someone who feels comfortable carrying. Those of us that were brought up and taught correctly about guns and even maybe have had specific training have a 'responsibility' in my opinion to use those skills. I believe God (YES I SAID IT) wants us to protect our family and even others that cannot or choose not to carry because they don't feel comfortable due to lack of training or other reasons.
Would you stand by and watch a little old lady get mugged simply because she doesn't carry a stun gun, taser or big stick? Nope. Do I think EVERYONE should carry? No. If a person isn't comfortable doing that, it's a danger.
Therefore, as law-abiding experienced individuals (or LEO) I see it as a responsibility just as much as anything else. I'm no 'cowboy' and hope and pray (yes, I pray!) that I will never have to take another person's life. However, if it comes to that, I have no issue in pulling the trigger as the last resort. I OWE it to me, my family and others.
I carry because I see it as my right and responsibility as someone who feels comfortable carrying. Those of us that were brought up and taught correctly about guns and even maybe have had specific training have a 'responsibility' in my opinion to use those skills. I believe God (YES I SAID IT) wants us to protect our family and even others that cannot or choose not to carry because they don't feel comfortable due to lack of training or other reasons.
Would you stand by and watch a little old lady get mugged simply because she doesn't carry a stun gun, taser or big stick? Nope. Do I think EVERYONE should carry? No. If a person isn't comfortable doing that, it's a danger.
Therefore, as law-abiding experienced individuals (or LEO) I see it as a responsibility just as much as anything else. I'm no 'cowboy' and hope and pray (yes, I pray!) that I will never have to take another person's life. However, if it comes to that, I have no issue in pulling the trigger as the last resort. I OWE it to me, my family and others.
harleyman959798
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kinda my old expression, u are better off to have it and not need it, as opposed to need it and not have it.
the world is getting worse by the day, i may never go through life needing my gun, but i feel safer knowing its there if and when i do
the world is getting worse by the day, i may never go through life needing my gun, but i feel safer knowing its there if and when i do
SilentHitz
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I carry because MrClean is dangerous, he lives in the same house with four women....since 3 are teenagers, hell he could snap at any moment!
LanceOregon
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I think that you are overstating this issue. I cannot even recall any folks here on this forum saying that they rely on a 22 or 25 pocket pistol.
Anything from .380 up can be effective. There are .380 loads that can easily match .38 Special performance. And with .380 pistols like the new Ruger LCP being so tiny and lightweight now, it is rather hard to argue that there is any benefit of any kind in going with a smaller caliber now.
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LanceO,
There is a segment on TFL who believe that there is little or no difference, in terms of self preservation with a firearm, between a mouse gun 22/25 and heavier calibers 38 and up. They tout statistics that show most criminals flee at the mere sight of a gun or after a few rounds are fired even if none of the rounds would have forced incapacitation. I just worry that this statistical shell game, by very reputable members, is going to steer folks who would have carried bigger to carry smaller. Then when that already rare event does happen in its most rare form ( a criminal who needs to be put down forcefully by gun fire) they don't have enough gun.
There is a segment on TFL who believe that there is little or no difference, in terms of self preservation with a firearm, between a mouse gun 22/25 and heavier calibers 38 and up. They tout statistics that show most criminals flee at the mere sight of a gun or after a few rounds are fired even if none of the rounds would have forced incapacitation. I just worry that this statistical shell game, by very reputable members, is going to steer folks who would have carried bigger to carry smaller. Then when that already rare event does happen in its most rare form ( a criminal who needs to be put down forcefully by gun fire) they don't have enough gun.
MeekAndMild
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Why carry a gun? A light gun weighs 13 ounces plus ammo. A police officer weighs on the average about 200 pounds. You could get a hernia carrying a cop all day.
Would if I could, for all the above reasons.
Can't CC or OC here; if I could, it would be for all the above-stated reasons (except the fist-in-mouth-kid--no rug varmints yet!), and because I feel that it is a human right, not a civil right, to defend myself against malevolent forces in the universe, using equal or greater force for such defense.
Mostly, I just use The Force.
Can't CC or OC here; if I could, it would be for all the above-stated reasons (except the fist-in-mouth-kid--no rug varmints yet!), and because I feel that it is a human right, not a civil right, to defend myself against malevolent forces in the universe, using equal or greater force for such defense.
Mostly, I just use The Force.
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