Why are young men so stupid????

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I guess that there is still a possibility that when you get older you'll realize that you shouldn't believe everything that you read on the internet
Part of the problem is the internet. It's given opinions the weight of fact. I really think we have a whole generation that's been overwhelmed with information, but they don't have the critical skills to differentiate the two.

I can articulate the most ignorant, boneheaded opinion imaginable, and there's someone on the internet who will not only agree, but who will cheer me on. I can simply ignore the people who say boring things like "that shouldn't be on fire" or "that violates several laws of physics."
 
Sorry - I should have been more specific

http://englishplus.com/grammar/00000207.htm

Disinterested or Uninterested?

Disinterested means "impartial" or "not taking sides." (In other words, not having a personal interest at stake.)

Uninterested means "not interested." (In other words, not showing any interest.)

Correct: A good referee should be disinterested.
(He does not take sides.)

Incorrect: He was disinterested in Jill's hobby.

Correct: He was uninterested in Jill's hobby.
(He shows no interest.)


It was a minor point and I did not mean to cause a dust-up. I know what you meant and should have left it at that.

Lost Sheep

p.s. I am 64 years old and I can be just as stupid as I was at 14 or 24 sometimes.
 
Most of us (males, at least) go through a stage where we want the biggest pistol, knife or engine we can get our hands on. I think it is probably part of a natural progression.
 
Friend of mine and his daughter came out to my place to shoot last weekend. She was home from Ft Lewis and had just done a tour in Iraq as a linguist who spent her time in the field helping communicate with locals. Got some combat time.
She had her own brand new SIG .45 and Kimber .45.
She handles them quite well-had proper training from other youngsters using their own training. Another friend's daughter nearly the same-different lingo.

At 19 in 1967, my peers were fellow Infantry Paratroopers on our way to SF Training.
We already knew a few things and had put ourselves in line to learn a whole lot more. I still learn things today.

I think a lot of problems just mentioned reference youngsters involve the stay at homes who haven't the guts or motivation to get out and away from their front porch and get some miles on themselves. Ghost recon and Tour of Duty don't get real points.

Most vet associates say the same.

Free country-so far.
 
Like some of use, they have lots of freedom and very little life experience. That should be cured with time.
 
Is it all young men that read a post and think its about them because they are young? I have read the original post several times and cant for the life of me find anywhere in it that suggests ALL young men were the topic of the thread. :eek:
 
Is it all young men that read a post and think its about them because they are young? I have read the original post several times and cant for the life of me find anywhere in it that suggests ALL young men were the topic of the thread. :eek:

The implication of the thread title is what causes it. Nowhere does the OP differentiate between "some" and all, so his blanket statement of "young men" can be taken to mean all of us. Especially since nowhere in his post did he say that he has ever had a positive experience with young men (which I sure hope he has).
 
Is it all young men that read a post and think its about them because they are young? I have read the original post several times and cant for the life of me find anywhere in it that suggests ALL young men were the topic of the thread.

Well, a title like "Why are young men so stupid???" is a bit inflammatory don't you think? While I wasn't as offended as Winchester_73 apparently was, I can understand his frustration because, being two years his junior, I've experienced a fair amount of ageism myself within the gun owning community.

Hopefully this doesn't sound conceited, but I consider myself to be rather knowledgeable about the sorts of guns I'm interested in because I've done a not insignificant amount of research and/or owned several of them. I am apparently not the only person with this opinion because more than one of the gun shops that I frequent have consulted me about certain guns that they've taken in on trade and aren't sure about on multiple occasions.

Given this state of affairs, it's certainly more than a touch irritating when someone dismisses what you have to say, or makes less-than-flattering assumptions about your character, or refuses to acknowledge your ability for rational thought (I've experienced all three from members of the shooting community on multiple occasions) based on nothing more than the fact that you are younger than they. After these sorts of things happen to you about a dozen times or so, they begin to strike a nerve.
 
LMAO.

I guess that there is still a possibility that when you get older you'll realize that you shouldn't believe everything that you read on the internet, but at 28 you're pretty much pushing the limits of being able to attribute stupidity to your youth.

If you want to rationalize buying a cheap revolver from a company with a bad reputation, and think that you are smarter than everyone else, go right on ahead. Its not just the internet where people say they had a problem with a Taurus. Whether or not you think they are good isn't going to change my or anyone else's opinion of them. Its hard to for me to believe that people who had Taurus problems all made them up, and that I am naive because I believe them, when its everywhere.

Why? Some people have no interest in shooting a .22. You really believe that forcing them to shoot something that they have no desire to shoot is the way to introduce a new shooter to the sport? When I take a newbie out shooting I take a half-dozen different guns (revolvers and semis in different calibers) and demonstrate firing them, then let the new shooter pick out what they want to shoot.

Well that's senseless and apparently you're not well versed in this stuff. The lowest recoil caliber, in a user friendly platform is the best to start on. "Having no interest in 22" is a foolish way for a new shooter to feel, and its a way that no one with any actual desire to learn thinks. You don't start driving with a Corvette. What you are saying is fine when you have an experienced shooter, who wished to shoot a 357 instead of say a 9mm, but not for someone brand new. For every one person who learns to shoot on something more than a 22, several others only learn bad habits. Pistol shooting is about the skill of shooting, and a 22 can teach and showcase skill. Its not about shooting something that you saw in a movie when you are brand new to guns. The reason they don't want to shoot a 22 is because they're ignorant to firearms.

Maybe for you. Hopefully you'll realize as you mature that what is "smartest" or "best" for you is not necessarily "smartest" or "best" for everyone else in the world.

You really need to contact the Department of Defense and tell them how stupid they are by introducing soldiers to handguns with those nasty 9mm's.

The first handgun that I ever fired was a 45ACP in the military. My first handgun that I bought personally was a .38 Super in the early 70's. I literally had dozens of handguns ranging from 9mm to 44 magnum before I bought my first 22 in the early 90's. I still find .22's extremely boring to shoot compared to anything else. That was by far the smartest way for me to do it.

No its not because of my "lack of maturity" that I said 22s are best to start on. Most anyone would say that, and you represent a marked minority to say people should pick whatever they want to learn with. You think the person, who knows very little, should pick their platform and caliber to learn with? That's like someone who never worked in a machine shop picking the tools they want to use to complete a project. Its really senseless. If you ask around, many people agree with what I said. I actually was advised by people who were guess what DING DING DING, people much older than myself, and their opinion on it made perfect sense. Years later, I completely agree. My grandfather, my uncle and my great uncle all started with 22s, and they all later became very competent shooters. My grandfather and my uncle shot competitively. Let me guess, you never rose to that level. Why would that be?

The department of defense has completely different goals in mind than someone trying to learn to shoot a handgun as a hobby, and perhaps someday compete. In the military, the sidearm is a secondary arm, so really, the emphasis in training is on the long arm. The basic tenant of a sidearm in combat is that you use it to acquire a long arm, and then use the long arm.

It doesn't matter what was smartest for you, as my comments about people new to firearms were actually about most people, but not every single person. You don't represent most people, and when you were buying those guns, and were new to firearms, chances are at the time, you were labeled as young and dumb for doing so. In the end, you think you were right. Good for you. You represent a minority.

If you're ever down this way we'll go shooting. I've got a lot of friends who shoot (male and female) who have never owned and have no interest in owning a .22. We'll hit a couple of the local competitions and see how well your "smartest" approach compares to other people's "stupid" approach.

I don't need to out shoot you or anyone to apply common sense to the whole subject and if you out shot me, it does not prove or disprove anything. I mean your name "45 auto" implies a lot. A 9mm is all that you need for SD, but I suppose that whole subject is too hard for you to understand, so you stick with "bigger has to be better." Understanding why a 9mm is acceptable for SD requires a deeper level of understanding and someone that says "hey new shooters who saw Dirty Harry, here is a 44 magnum" probably doesn't understand 9mm vs 45.
 
Well, we got some humor and some insight, but we've veered into bickering. If anything, perhaps we can all reconsider some stereotypes.
 
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