why an AR pistol?

When you get below 14" barrel length in a 5.56 you start to sacrifice a lot of ballistic performance.
If I were to run an AR pistol it would (and is) in 300 Blackout. Though you still loose velocity you have the benefit of a 220gr bullet. Oh and that is subsonic so with a silencer it is quiet.
I prefer the 300 BLK in short barreled AR platforms.
 
I bought a Carbon 15, Type 97 for the following reasons:

1. Because it was an inventive way around the Assault Weapons Ban on large, heavy pistols and the Antis hate this pistol;

2. For kicks and giggles - which it has provided me with many.

3. It's super light, compact and I would consider making it my go to .223 in an emergency.

4. It can be carried in a small gym bag, or slung over your back with a shirt or jacket covering it. I.e. it's not impossible to carry inconspicuously.

5. My 120 round Chinese Drum works with it.

6. If something of mine is going to be confiscated by FEMA during a Hurricane emergency, I'd rather it be my Carbon-15 than my AC556.

7. It works great with all brass-cased ammo I've tried in it; not so much with Wolf steel-cased ammo, though.
 
Supposedly, one of the reasons le has gone to the ar platform for swat type operations instead of smg type guns is that 5.56mm has much less barrier penetration (not using green tip) in things such as house walls than 9mm. Therefore, missed rounds are less likely to do collateral damage in the next room. At the ranges presented inside a dwelling, lost ballistics from a short barrel are irrelevant.
That would make the ar pistol a good choice for a high firepower HD gun, better than a pistol cal carbine.
I still prefer my pistol cal.carbine in the house, though. Even with the suppressor, its only barely longer than the ar pistol.
But that's me.
The carbon 15s have always been a bit more finicky.
 
I have to admit while I have no practical use for one the example in the pic does have some attractiveness about it. Would a setup like that one in 50 Beowulf or 458 socom be that much more useful?
 
My gun club will not allow AR or AK pistols on ANY of it's ranges.
The statement says they are not controllable and dangerous.
Maybe there was a indecent.
 
My gun club will not allow AR or AK pistols on ANY of it's ranges.
The statement says they are not controllable and dangerous.
Maybe there was a indecent.
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When you rapid fire an AR pistol, they have a tendency to shoot high due to muzzle rise - possibly over a berm; and when you try to correct that, they tend to shoot into the dirt. Slow aimed shots aren't a problem.....but who buys these things for slow aimed fire? (Ask me how I know:o)
 
Supposedly, one of the reasons le has gone to the ar platform for swat type operations instead of smg type guns is that 5.56mm has much less barrier penetration (not using green tip) in things such as house walls than 9mm.
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Actually, I think the difference in barrier penetration is being used at a justification. I think the reason is that the Fed Gov supplies AR platforms to LE at very attractive prices (from cheap to free).

I also think that the reason the ATF is moving to ban M855 ammo at this time is because of certain AR pistol enthusiasts. Making videos and putting them online for the ENTIRE world to see, bragging on how they are essentially evading Federal Law does not win friends, but it certainly does influence people in govt. The children (by they attitude, not their age) that thumbed their noses at the ATF on UTube have poked the bear, and surprise, surprise, the bear pokes back.

I don't see a point to AR pistols. I do see a point to a .223 handgun (Contender) just not an AR/AK type. Other than fun. Which I admit is fully adequate justification for owning anything.
 
No it sure doesn't 44. Although it's well documented that any round designed for penetration (armor piercing) and any round at all loses much needed velocity once barrel length drops to a certain length. Velocity critical to its penetrating capability. Not that this fact will make any difference to the feds.
 
Crank, the feds have a definition, in law, defining AP by what the bullet is made of, NOT by what it does or doesn't penetrate. They could care less about performance, only construction matters to the law.
 
As others have said the AR pistol is a good place to start with Filing a Form 1 and getting a tax stamp from the ATF for an SBR. I agree that the .300 BLK seems like a good choice for the platform.
 
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